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    Quote Originally Posted by nefertiti View Post
    страшен...
    но не настолько страшен как считаешь ты " у страха глаза велики" (ц.)

    марихуана нелeгальна, а алкоголь легален. это мне представляется очень странным. это всё что я хочу пока сказать по теме...:304:
    Т.к. ты опытный человек в этом деле, я с удовольствием послушаю о влиянии кокаина на тело. Насморк там, сердце.

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    Статья в New York Medical Journal
    Кокаин применяется в медицине для экстренной помощи при обширных кровотечениях. Имеется в виду, что к моменту применения в пациенте уже сделаны отверстия, кроме данных природой.
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    Quote Originally Posted by In2HiDef View Post
    Т.к. ты опытный человек в этом деле, я с удовольствием послушаю о влиянии кокаина на тело. Насморк там, сердце..
    Никакой зависимости от кокаина не возникло. Если человек говорит что у него зависимость от кокаина - сразу понятно что полный идиот, или вообще какой-то попугай.

    Но я решила его (кокаин)не употреблять вообще, из-за того что очень плохо сказывается на нервной системе, может вызвать невроз, даже психоз . Про то что он сдирает слизистую оболочку носа - это правда, но нужно годы на это...
    Сердечно сосудистая система не знаю - у меня всё было нормально с этим... Сердце не болело...

    Технически, в сам период употребления (когда кокаин находится в организме) - он вызывает страх, параною, тяжело общаться с людьми, концентрация нарушается, невозможно даже читать книгу, смотреть кино... Что это за кайф?? Никакого кайфа.
    Другое дело хлопок-сырец...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nefertiti View Post
    Другое дело хлопок-сырец...
    А с этим что делают?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nefertiti View Post
    Блииин! Я там больше половины не знаю...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Экспортёр View Post
    Блииин! Я там больше половины не знаю...
    Считай перед тобой непаханные просторы, целина.. едрить ее так !

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    Quote Originally Posted by In2HiDef View Post
    А с этим что делают?
    это я так пошутила... имела в виду что между опиумом (чистый активный ингридиент) и героином - огромная разница. и наука это подтверждает
    другое дело что именно люди с этим делают... злоупотребления, излишества, эксессы, человеческое несовершенство выходит наружу... свинья и в африке свинья...
    да, и, многие преступления как раз и совершаются именно в состоянии опьянения, известно что определённые дозы алкоголя пробуждают агрессию в человеке...

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    Quote Originally Posted by In2HiDef View Post
    А с этим что делают?
    в подушку набивают и спайт - кааааайф!

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    Default медицинское применение марихуаны....

    A pair of scientists at California Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco has found that a compound derived from marijuana could stop metastasis in many kinds of aggressive cancer, potentially altering the fatality of the disease forever.

    What we found was that his Cannabidiol could essentially 'turn off' the ID-1 (the gene that causes cancer to spread), Desprez told HuffPost. The cells stopped spreading and returned to normal.

    Since then, their team has found that CBD works both in the lab and in animals. And now, they've found even more good news.

    "We started by researching breast cancer," said Desprez. "But now we've found that Cannabidiol works with many kinds of aggressive cancers--brain, prostate--any kind in which these high levels of ID-1 are present. We've found no toxicity in the animals we've tested"
    One study in mice and rats suggested that cannabinoids may have a protective effect against the development of certain types of tumors.[3] During this 2-year study, groups of mice and rats were given various doses of THC by gavage. A dose-related decrease in the incidence of hepatic adenoma tumors and hepatocellular carcinoma was observed in the mice. Decreased incidences of benign tumors (polyps and adenomas) in other organs (mammary gland, uterus, pituitary, testis, and pancreas) were also noted in the rats. In another study, delta-9-THC, delta-8-THC, and cannabinol were found to inhibit the growth of Lewis lung adenocarcinoma cells in vitro and in vivo .[4] In addition, other tumors have been shown to be sensitive to cannabinoid-induced growth inhibition.

    http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/p...essional/page4
    Marijuana was described in Indian and Chinese medical texts more than 3,000 years ago. It was used to treat conditions such as beriberi, constipation, gout, malaria, rheumatism, and absent-mindedness, as well as depression, insomnia, vomiting, tetanus, and coughs.

    In the middle ages, herbalists used it externally to help muscle and joint pain.

    In the mid-1800s, the plant was mentioned as a treatment for gonorrhea and angina (chest pains related to heart disease). It was also used to treat intestinal pain, cholera, epilepsy, strychnine poisoning, bronchitis, whooping cough, and asthma. In the US and Europe, marijuana extracts were prepared and sold for medicinal use as sedatives and pain relievers, to help appetite and sexual problems.

    Things were already changing in the US in 1937, when marijuana use (even by doctors) was taxed. Then Congress passed a law in 1951 that classified marijuana as a narcotic drug. In 1970, marijuana was defined in a new law, the Controlled Substances Act, as a Schedule 1 drug -- a drug with no accepted medical use and with the potential for abuse.

    Marijuana is legal in many parts of Asia and the Middle East

    In recent decades, marijuana has been the subject of extensive medical research using more advanced methods of testing as specific active compounds have been isolated. But political and legal controversies surrounding its status as an illegal substance, as well as concerns about potentially harmful side effects, have hampered the process of scientific inquiry in many countries, including the United States.

    Despite this, researchers continue to study the compounds in marijuana for possible medical applications. Two prescription drugs based on marijuana compounds have been approved in the United States, and a third has been approved in Canada and Europe. The prescription drug dronabinol is an active ingredient of marijuana. It is used for patients with chemotherapy-related nausea and vomiting that does not respond to usual treatments, as well as for people with serious weight loss due to AIDS. Nabilone is another drug based on cannabinoids that is used for nausea and vomiting after chemotherapy. Other compounds are being tested for possible use as drugs.

    More recently, scientists reported that THC and other cannabinoids such as CBD (cannabidiol) slow growth and/or cause death in certain types of cancer cells growing in laboratory dishes. Some animal studies also suggest certain cannabinoids may slow growth and reduce spread of some forms of cancer.
    Laboratory tests conducted in 2008 by a team of scientists formed as a joint research effort between Spain, France and Italy, and published in The Journal Of Clinical Investigation, showed that the active ingredient in marijuana, known as tetrahydrocannabinol or THC, can function as a cure for brain cancer by inducing human glioma cell death through stimulation of autophagy.

    What is amazing is that while cannabinoids effectively target and kill cancerous cells, they do not affect healthy, normal cells and may actually protect them against cellular death. Moreover, cannabinoids are also researched for their pain-modulation and anti-inflammatory abilities as they bind to special receptors in the brain, much like opioid derivatives that are commonly prescribed today.

    Further evidence to support the effects of cannabis extract on malignant cells comes from the real life experience of individuals who have successfully overcome cancer by using cannabis oil. Examples include a patient, who managed to completely cure his skin cancer by simply applying cannabis oil onto the affected areas of the skin, as well as another, who recovered from a severe head injury with the aid of hemp oil.

    What stands out is that from the vast amount of research and data available, as well as the personal experiences of cancer survivors, is that no chemotherapy currently being used medically can match the non-toxic anti-carcinogenic and anti-tumorigenic effects of these natural plant compounds.



    http://www.naturalnews.com/033757_ca...#ixzz2FYfaN19R
    A careful study determining that marijuana is more effective than Marinol was published in 1988, [9] but only one other research group, the Tennessee Board of Pharmacy, has been bold enough to confirm those findings.[10] The National Institutes of Health is officially knowledgeable that smoked marijuana is more effective than Marinol tablets; panelists of the NIH Workshop on the Medical Utility of Marijuana in 1997 made very strong statements about marijuana’s safety and medical value.[11] However, the National Institute on Drug Abuse, sole source of federal cannabis for legal research, does not support scientific investigations that might lead to rescheduling marijuana as medicine.

    Many patients agree that Marinol is less effective than whole marijuana, and mane cancer specialists concur. In 1991, 44% of oncologists surveyed said they had already recommended cannabis to their patients, and 56% said that marijuana should be legally prescribable.[14] As early as 1975 the New England Journal of Medicine had reported that “THC is an effective anti-emetic for patients receiving cancer chemotherapy.” [15] Since then, dozens of scientific studies recognized by the US Food and Drug Administration and the National Cancer Institute have shown that the use of natural cannabis is a preferable remedy for adverse effects of the cancer-killing poisons employed in oncology. [16] Relief from the side effects of cancer chemotherapy is a widely accepted medical use of marijuana in the United States. The American Cancer Society is one of dozens of national and international health organizations that have voiced support for further research on the medical use of cannabis in cancer chemotherapy treatments.

    Independent studies in the mid-1970s suggested that cannabinoids inhibited tumor growth in lab mice. [22] In 1979, a study commissioned by the Australian government concluded that cannabis is effective in the treatment of glaucoma, and “of potentially greater significance is the recent finding that THC inhibits the growth of some types of cancer in tissue culture.” [23] Intriguing as they may be, those citations pale in light of investigations by the US government. Ironically, pursuing common prohibitionist rhetoric proved quite perplexing upon analyzing the carcinogenic properties of THC. In the mid-1990s, the US federal government funded a two-year and two-million-dollar study by the National Toxicology Program under the review of the Federal Drug Administration, the National Cancer Institute, and other federal agencies. The study was designed to determine the cancer rate induced by injecting high does of THC in the bodies of mice, then injecting them with cancerous cells. Ironically, the study found that the mice injected with THC had a far lower incidence of cancer than did the control group. Assessing the unpublished draft version, cannabis researcher Donald Abrams summarized, “THC caused fewer tumors and prolonged survival in these laboratory animals.” [24] The deputy director of the National Toxicology Program study concurred, “We found absolutely no evidence of cancer.” The profound implication that cannabis use might actually help prevent cancer has not been officially released to the American public

    http://www.cannabismd.net/cancer/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguel_Cordona View Post
    Не вчера ведь кокс изобрели.
    доклоумбовская Америка наверно даже во всей своей культуре была этим
    потреблением балована. Не знаю как на самом деле, но широко потребляли однозначно.
    А герыч вот, лет сто назад в аптеках легален был, как средство от мигрени.
    А табак индейцы курили. И в европу завезен был. Как и кофе.
    Вот кокаин - все равно что табак в этом контексте.
    Бывали периоды кажется, что даже чай нелегальным числился.

    Возможно что табачная промышленность добилась статуса легальности, а остальные - нет.
    Ну а что касается спиртного, то это для старушки Европы - родное традиционное.
    Хотя его не только в Европе добывать умели с древности.
    Даже слоны кажется научились.
    Наркотики встречаются в натуральном и синтетическом виде.
    Зобродивший мед и фрукты => дистилированый алкоголь
    Опиум => Морфин
    Кока => Кокаин

    Так вот алгоголь дистилиривать научились еще в 4м веке н. э., тогда как, т.н. "тяжелые" синтетики в 19м веке.
    Конечно попытки искоренить алкоголь не обрели успех, т.к. эта привычка уже "плотно" впиталась человечеством и стала частью "культуры", а не экзотикой. Если б Перу было Европой все могло бы быть по другому.
    Стакан на треть пуст.

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    Quote Originally Posted by In2HiDef View Post
    А давай представим, что у всех людей есть хвосты? Это будет так же нереалистично, как и то, что ты предложил. Традиции таковы, каковы они есть. Марихуану не курили массово ни в одном обществе, потребители опия в Китае считались изгоями, в Азии и Аравии за это наказывали 1500 лет.
    Правда такова, что in social setting -алкоголь самый безвредный опъянитель. Марихуана при курении выделяет несравнимо больше токсинов и канцерогенов, чем табак. Кокаин в порошке разъедает ткани тела, может привести к немедленному инсульту или инфаркту. Про героин, мет, дихлофос я вообще молчу.
    Боюсь традиции на много порядков более податливы чем такая вещь как хвост. За то время как произойдет такая эволюционная метаморфоза, традиции поменяются миллион раз, поэтому я б не стал даже сравнивать.
    Стакан на треть пуст.

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