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    Ну вот такой вопрос. Patient is 55-60 yo. Presents with severe pruritis, which within a day evolves into a very erythematous, papular rash, raised and blanching, inolving trunk/extremities. Over a couple of days, also develops marked edema of hands/arms only. No facial or leg edema. No fever, no preceding URI symptoms, etc. Had a sick contact with someone who had fever, cough, sore throat a few days before that. Pt goes to his doctor, who diagnoses him with an "allergic rxn", sends him home on Benadryl. Bloodwork /UA is negative. All symptoms resolve within one week or so, but then the rash reappears. Pt has no known allergies, takes a few meds chronically but denies taking any new meds.

    Что бы ето могло быть? ДоХтора, что скажете?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ne-Blondinka View Post
    Ну вот такой вопрос. Patient is 55-60 yo. Presents with severe pruritis, which within a day evolves into a very erythematous, papular rash, raised and blanching, inolving trunk/extremities. Over a couple of days, also develops marked edema of hands/arms only. No facial or leg edema. No fever, no preceding URI symptoms, etc. Had a sick contact with someone who had fever, cough, sore throat a few days before that. Pt goes to his doctor, who diagnoses him with an "allergic rxn", sends him home on Benadryl. Bloodwork /UA is negative. All symptoms resolve within one week or so, but then the rash reappears. Pt has no known allergies, takes a few meds chronically but denies taking any new meds.

    Что бы ето могло быть? ДоХтора, что скажете?
    insufficient info
    a wild guess ;)
    some small vessel vasculitis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ne-Blondinka View Post
    Ну вот такой вопрос. Patient is 55-60 yo. Presents with severe pruritis, which within a day evolves into a very erythematous, papular rash, raised and blanching, inolving trunk/extremities. Over a couple of days, also develops marked edema of hands/arms only. No facial or leg edema. No fever, no preceding URI symptoms, etc. Had a sick contact with someone who had fever, cough, sore throat a few days before that. Pt goes to his doctor, who diagnoses him with an "allergic rxn", sends him home on Benadryl. Bloodwork /UA is negative. All symptoms resolve within one week or so, but then the rash reappears. Pt has no known allergies, takes a few meds chronically but denies taking any new meds.

    Что бы ето могло быть? ДоХтора, что скажете?
    - allergic reaction to something he doesn't know he is allergic to yet
    - viral entity
    - autoimmune

    I need labs, including his eosinophil count
    At this point he probably needs CBC w diff (I would look at eiosinophils especially), LFTs, ESR, CRP and a dermatology referral with a goal of biopsy unless they are confident w/o as to what this can be.
    Если больной очень хочет жить, врачи бессильны. [c]
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    I don't have any more info. Just wanted to see if you could add to my differential. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ne-Blondinka View Post
    I don't have any more info. Just wanted to see if you could add to my differential. Thanks
    U need more info to expand differential

    Is he getting a bx?
    Если больной очень хочет жить, врачи бессильны. [c]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malishka View Post
    U need more info to expand differential

    Is he getting a bx?
    Don't know. I'm not his doctor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ne-Blondinka View Post
    Don't know. I'm not his doctor
    are you a resident or a student?
    we need to know more about this guy, this is a professional interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ne-Blondinka View Post
    Don't know. I'm not his doctor
    Let us know once u know
    Если больной очень хочет жить, врачи бессильны. [c]
    Здоровье - это когда у вас каждый день болит в другом месте [c]

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    Пациент женщина или мужчина? Если женщина, может такое быть, что она ходит на мани-педи, ей там ручки-ножки мажут каким-то кремом. Вот и реакция только там где мажут и по этому ит камз энд гоуз в зависимости от частоты посещения салона? Wild guess, не бейте больно, но это первое, что пришло в голову.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Шмоль View Post
    Пациент женщина или мужчина? Если женщина, может такое быть, что она ходит на мани-педи, ей там ручки-ножки мажут каким-то кремом. Вот и реакция только там где мажут и по этому ит камз энд гоуз в зависимости от частоты посещения салона? Щилд гуесс, не бейте больно, но это первое, что пришло в голову.
    Бить не будем Но ето мужчина и вроде без маникюра.

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