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    (02-20) 11:29 PST OAKLAND -- A 23-year-old visitor from the East Coast had just gotten money from an ATM when he told his friend on a cell phone that he had a bad feeling about two men approaching him at the Fruitvale BART Station in Oakland.


    His worst fears were realized when one suspect, Victor Veliz, 18, held a folding knife with a 5-inch blade to his neck and the other, Christopher Gonzalez, 18, threatened to shoot him Thursday night, authorities said.
    In a blind panic, he lashed out at his attackers, grabbing the knife from one of them and punching the other as his friend listened in horror on the phone.
    Without realizing it, authorities say, the man stabbed Gonzalez in the chest. Gonzalez stumbled to his family's home around the corner, collapsed into his father's arms and died.
    Veliz, who is affiliated with a gang, was arrested at Gonzalez's home after police allegedly found him with the East Coast visitor's cell phone. He will be charged with murder in the death of his accomplice, along with a robbery count, prosecutors said.
    The robbery victim suffered only cuts in fighting off his assailants. He ran from the station, flagged down an Oakland police officer on Fruitvale Avenue and turned over the bloody knife. His name was not released.
    The man was "scared senseless" when he was attacked about 9:30 p.m. Thursday, said Allison Danzig, an Alameda County deputy district attorney. He acted in self-defense and will not be charged, she said.
    When police told him that Gonzalez had died, "he was very saddened and very upset," Danzig said.
    Gonzalez's father, Javier Gonzalez, said Friday that his son had cried out for his parents and sister when he burst into his home on San Leandro Street. He died there.
    Javier Gonzalez sobbed at the loss of his son, who worked with him in his roofing business and at Oakland Raiders games.
    "I'm angry at both of them," he said of the robbery victim and Veliz. "They took my son away from me. He was a hard-working kid."
    He added, "My son is dead. I want somebody to pay for this."

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    Папаша убитого уже готовится к судебному процессу.:teufel:

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    Wow, чувак молодец, как ему удалось выхватить нож (который около горла) и ударить другого бандита (у которого пистолет? /или тот хотел стрелять на словах/), без спец. навыков здесь не обойтись.
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    Quote Originally Posted by смешно View Post
    Wow, чувак молодец, как ему удалось выхватить нож (который около горла) и ударить другого бандита (у которого пистолет? /или тот хотел стрелять на словах/), без спец. навыков здесь не обойтись.
    Чувак с ножом, наверное, был на спидах, руки тряслись. Про пистолет– на понт брали.

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    а нехер грабить людей на улицах с оружием в руках.
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    Я подумал, что это могло быть не столько ограбление, сколько [gang initiation], атака на произвольную жертву, и лежать бы этому виктиму зарезанным вне зависимости от исхода ограбления.
    Умилило, как "hard–working kid" стал звать маму, папу и сестру, когда получил смертельное ранение.

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    Quote Originally Posted by In2HiDef View Post
    [B] "They took my son away from me. He was a hard-working kid."
    He added, "My son is dead. I want somebody to pay for this."
    Нормально.. хард-воркинг кид.. вооруженный грабитель.. молчал бы в тряпочку уже папаша..

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    Quote Originally Posted by In2HiDef View Post
    Я подумал, что это могло быть не столько ограбление, сколько [gang initiation], атака на произвольную жертву, и лежать бы этому виктиму зарезанным вне зависимости от исхода ограбления.
    Умилило, как "hard–working kid" стал звать маму, папу и сестру, когда получил смертельное ранение.

    Как? очень просто, обычный пацан 18 лет, мне его искренне жалко.
    Называется попал в плохую компанию.
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    Quote Originally Posted by In2HiDef View Post
    Чувак с ножом, наверное, был на спидах, руки тряслись. Про пистолет– на понт брали.
    представь себя на месте victim, ты смог бы так?

    как бы ты себя повёл?

    Это между прочим серьёзная тема и нам бы надо это хорошо обсудить.
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    Quote Originally Posted by смешно View Post
    Как? очень просто, обычный пацан 18 лет, мне его искренне жалко.
    Называется попал в плохую компанию.
    Да... Join the gang, see the ground.

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