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    Хорошая статейка, логика работает.

    http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...0.html?cnn=yes


    Russian soldiers on top of an armored vechicle enter Tskhinvali, capital of Georgian breakaway enclave of South Ossetia.
    Mikhail Metzel / AP


    Russia's invasion of Georgia has less to do with South Ossetia and more about a Russia that never reconciled itself to losing an empire — or being treated like a second rate power all these years. Russia's resentment has only grown as oil prices have risen, turning Russia, with the five million barrels of oil it exports a day, into a first-world economic power. It was only a matter of time, then, before Russia taught the world a lesson.
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    Since the Soviet Union collapsed 17 years ago, Washington in particular has deluded itself into believing that it was somehow a real competitor to Russia in the southern tier of the former Soviet Union — that is, the eight states that make up the Caucasus and the former Soviet Central Asia. Washington acted as if these states were truly independent and sovereign, immune from the influence of the old metropolitan center, Moscow. Washington deliberately ignored how Russia had held on to its military bases in the southern tier, how the successor to the KGB stayed more plugged into intelligence from the area than the CIA ever hoped to, and how local leaders flew to Moscow to clear all important decisions. This was the context for Washington's push to get Georgia to join NATO.
    Moscow's intentions were never secret. I can attest to that firsthand. During Tajikistan's civil war in the early 1990s, I was assigned to the embassy in Dushanbe and was evacuated out of the country by Russia's 201st Motorized Rifle Division. The Russian officers who commanded the unit were proud the Red Army had held together through the break-up of the Soviet Union and was called to come to the aid of a superpower like the United States. They had no inkling that Washington would ignore the facts on the ground and deny Russia's true influence in the region.
    The picking apart of Yugoslavia, particularly the splitting off of Kosovo from Serbia, further fueled Russian resentment and humiliation. It only reminded Russia how the U.S. had undermined it in the Middle East, peeling off Egypt, South Yemen, Iraq and Syria from its sphere of influence over the decades. But more than anything, Russia would never forget that it was Washington that created the Sunni jihadist Frankenstein in Afghanistan. That was an arrow pointed straight at the heart of Russia. With Muslims making up 10% to 15% of Russia's population, the Afghan-born jihad became an existential threat to Russia proper. Indeed, it would slosh across the continent into Chechnya.
    Through it all Russia bided its time — until Georgia offered up a golden opportunity last Friday. By invading its neighbor, Russia has crossed the Rubicon, demonstrating that the Caucasus sit squarely and solely in Russia's sphere of influence. Moscow's long=term objective in Georgia no doubt is to install a friendly government in Tbilisi (it has tried more than once to do that since Georgian independence), to keep Georgia out of NATO, stop the arms flow into Chechnya, and take control of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline, the only important export route from the Caspian that does not pass through Russia. For it is oil that will give Russia all the more leverage over the southern tier.
    The question now is what else Russia is prepared to do to make up for those 17 years of humiliation. One thing we should pretty much count on is that Moscow right now is casting an eye toward Iran, the most direct route to restoring its influence in the Middle East. An Iranian-Russian alliance, Moscow knows, would be an Israeli-American nightmare, not to mention a major headache for the global economy. Russia sitting on Eurasian oil exports and Iran on the Strait of Hormuz would put 22 million barrels a day under the control of a very unfriendly alliance. Will Moscow try to team-up with Tehran?
    The thing about nightmare scenarios is that they rarely come true. Still, it bears watching. There are a half-dozen pending arms deals between Russia and Iran on the table, including the Russian S-300, an air defense system that would make an aerial attack on Iran very costly. If Russia, emboldened by a victory in Georgia, were to go ahead with the deal now, it would be a sign that imperial Russia is truly back on the move.
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    Default Re: The Russian Empire Strikes Back

    Смешно, не расстраивай форумчан выдержками из памфлетов с пропагандой...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Экспортёр
    Смешно, не расстраивай форумчан выдержками из памфлетов с пропагандой...
    муж вчера веселился
    на американские блоги пришли русскоязычные, таки обученные инглишу, патриоты и стали проводить политинформацию. :grum::grum::grum:

    он не все понял
    мне пришлось переводить "непереводимую игру слов"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmopolit
    муж вчера веселился
    на американские блоги пришли русскоязычные, таки обученные инглишу, патриоты и стали проводить политинформацию. :grum::grum::grum:

    он не все понял
    мне пришлось переводить "непереводимую игру слов"
    Ага! А я в номере двое суток проторчал - новости смотрел, вместо того, чтоб акул в тёплых карибских водах фигачить!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Экспортёр
    Ага! А я в номере двое суток проторчал - новости смотрел, вместо того, чтоб акул в тёплых карибских водах фигачить!
    вот пусти политически подкованного юзера отдыхать, так он сам себе весь отпуск испохабит :grum:
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    Quote Originally Posted by смешно
    Хорошая статейка, логика работает.

    http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...0.html?cnn=yes
    Дерьмо статейка. Пропаганда. Вот где логика работает:

    http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1358
    in the next life i'll try harder

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmopolit
    муж вчера веселился
    на американские блоги пришли русскоязычные, таки обученные инглишу, патриоты и стали проводить политинформацию. :grum::grum::grum:

    он не все понял
    мне пришлось переводить "непереводимую игру слов"
    он у тебя что, по бусурмански только понимает ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximKamerer
    он у тебя что, по бусурмански только понимает ?
    Чехова понималь
    Достоевского понималь
    рашен педриотов - не панималь :D
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    немножко за уши подтянутая статейка.
    каждый бьет чем может ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by madV
    Дерьмо статейка. Пропаганда. Вот где логика работает:

    http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1358
    Никакой пропаганды. Всё названо своими именами.
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