Fraud или не fraud?

[mineral]

Сягодня подкупил кой-чаго на eBay. Попросил продавца дать мне телефонный номер и доказательство его существования, так как он соглашался тока на Money Order или Cashiers Check.

Он мне никогда не отвечал через eBay. Посылал тока приватное мыло...

Message 1

Hi,

Congratulations on winning this xxxxxxx!

Your total with shipping is US $2145, that's with 3 day shipping and insurance.

I accept checks, money orders, and western union. I've been using western union a lot because my sister works for them and gets the fee back so I always cover it; in simple words, there's no fee for you and you get your camera fast.

Just go to http://www.westernunion.com/info/agentInquiryIntl.asp and find their agent close to you

Let me know when you do that and I can send you all details and instructions.

Today (Monday) I can ship it until 9PM.

With check/money order it takes 6-12 days before you get the camera, with western union you'd get it in 3 days, and since I'd cover the fee it wouldn't cost you anything extra.

[mineral]

Начнем с того, что на eBay запрещено предлагать оплату через Western Union.

[mineral]

Message 2

I just sent you this email, I forgot to mention that if we use WU $950 would be due before shipping and the rest after you get it.

[mineral]

Message 3

Hi again,

I just sent you an email with the total and payment options, I forgot to mention that I can use UPS or DHL for shipping so let me know if you have a preference.

[mineral]

Message 4

With check/money order it takes 12-15 business days before my credit union
clears it, so you'd get the camera in about a month, and with western union you'd get it in 3 days.

Before anything heck to make sure there's an agent location close to you, they are
everywhere but just make sure: http://www.westernunion.com/info/agentInquiryIntl.asp

Please confirm your name/address for shipping labels:

XXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXX

Also, let me know if you want me to ship it registered, that way
someone will have to sign for it when it gets there.


So your total is US $2145, $950 due now and the rest on delivery.

Here's the payment instructions:
Once you go to western union agent location tell the clerk that you want to
send an instant money transfer, not a money order.

Make sure you use either cash or bank card to pay.

You'll need to fill out a form (green one).

First you'll enter my information:

Name of the seller (моя поправка)
Toronto, ON
Canada

I said I'll cover western union fee so this time you'll just send me $950 and
pay the fee (it can be anywhere from $70 to $80 or even more, depends from
agent to agent). Then we can subtract the fee from the rest you owe and that
will be due on delivery.

At the bottom there's space for test question/answer. I use this to track
all sales and to get my fee back.

Use this test question: xxxxxx?
And this answer: xxxxx

Tell the clerk to enter this test question/answer into their system as they
forget that sometimes. When you're done with everything and the clerk says
it's all sent ask them to make sure the test question is there.

After you do that just send me this:

*How much was the fee
*MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number)
*Check if your receipt says "Test question/answer - Sent"


Thanks and let me know if you have any questions

[NataliaLA]

после того как друг получил вместо лаптопа книги "ебей 4 даммиес". (он писал письма в их investigation, insurance co etc, но по-моему ему вернули только часть денег)....я не стала бы делать там большие покупки, позвани лучше в сам ebay они подскажут лучше всех....
Мой account on ebay взломал кто-то, и крутил махинации, у меня пропали все поинты и доступ к своему account, я долго висела с ними на телефоне, но account так и не вернули, сказали новый открывать, и поинты потеряны...жаль.....

[mineral]

На все попытки заставить его отвечать через eBay, поговорить с ним по телефону... - полное молчание, как-будто я и не спрашивал...

Имя и штат на эккаунте и, соответственно, на получателе в Western Union совершенно разные...

Короче, репортнул я его, как fraud... Что-то он не звучал, как честный seller.

[mineral]

На последнее мое сообщение он вообще не ответил:

I am not getting the item because the transaction sounds like fraud:

1. you don't want to communicate via eBay messaging
2. you're rejecting to give me your phone number
3. you're rejecting to provide me with an evidence of your authentity
3. you've never answered my questions about the item
4. you've suggested Western Union payments which, by default, is enough for suspending your account. you've never suggested this via eBay which tells me you're perfectly aware of what it means.

Would you trust me if you received my private emails similar to yours? To me, it sounds like as soon as I pay the money's gone and no delivery.

Again, if you're an honest seller, I am sorry.

Provided I don't have any evidence you're an honest seller, I would gladly pay with PayPal instantly. I'll cover the fees.

[ALitman]

МНе кацц, что fraud... Карочи, Mineral, все правильно, я б тож его репортнула как fraud.

[Akela]

Fraud, к гадалке не ходи.