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    Default Mojet li F-1 student otkrit svoy biznes?

    Privet ,
    u menya takoy vopros: Esli Ya student f-1 viza i ya dopustim uchus v Universitete , moguli ya otkrit kakoy nibud biznes? Pritom ya sam ne budu tam rabotat , ( dopustim pokupayu kakoy nibud "Store" ) i officalno investiruyu dengi , pritom ya sam tam ne rabotayu , tak chto govorit Zakon ili IRS? Chto student mojet rabotat v pridelax campus-a 20 chasov , no nichego ne govoritsa naschot investitsii ili otkritii biznes-a?
    Nu Kto chto znaet ob etom?
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    Lev Kobrin , vy mojete chto nibud skazat naschot etogo?
    Spasibo bolshoe ,

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    Да.

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    Конечно, бизнес может открыть (купить) хоть визитор, хоть человек, который вообще никогда в Штатах не был.

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    Net odnoznachnogo otveta na etot vopros. Esli mi govorim o 'chistoj' investizii, to, konechno, eto mozhno. Esli eto 'in the grey area', to USCIS mozhet zavalit voprosami i v itoge zapretit/najti etot 'venture' kak narushauyshij nonimmigrant status (F-1).

    Nemnogo zakona (in English):

    The definition of employment in section 274(a) of the INA states that employment can be a service or labor performed by an employee for an employer. Even a 'silent' partner could be construed as providing a service to the partner/employer, especially when there is compensation/other disbursement ("employer" is defined in 8 CFR 274a.1(g)).

    In the case of Matter of Kung, 17 I&N Dec. 260, a 'silent' partner, who was making an investment in his corporation, was denied a change of status application from F1 to E1, for failure to maintain his F1 status. At issue was whether the applicant's investment in a restaurant was "employment" in violation of his F1 status. The assumption of both INS and the BIA in deciding the case is that self-employment violates nonimmigrant status. However, the case is inconclusive about whether the applicant's investment, and the applicant's activities related to that investment, constituted "employment." The course of argument in the decision indicates that there are varying degrees of involvement that a person can have in his investments, and that at some point his level of involvement crosses an invisible line over which those activities become an "employment" with all the harsh consequences and ramifications... In addition to the substantive USCIS laws and regulations, there are the SEVIS rules, which are also very important.

    The more practical and liberal approach is that if the 'silent' partner is not doing any work, it is similar to investing in the stock market or real estate. You can receive dividends or profits but not compensation.

    There are many professionals that tend to agree that a 'silent' partner is more analogous to an investor rather than an employee-employer relationship. One must be certain that the person is truly a silent partner and will not be doing anything regarding the rendering of services.

    You should consult with a competent U.S. immigration attorney before you initiate any investment activities while on a nonimmigrant visa/status.

    This reply is in the nature of general information, not legal advice and should not be relied on as such.

    Good Luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Advokat Alex Berd
    Net odnoznachnogo otveta na etot vopros. Esli mi govorim o 'chistoj' investizii, to, konechno, eto mozhno. Esli eto 'in the grey area', to USCIS mozhet zavalit voprosami i v itoge zapretit/najti etot 'venture' kak narushauyshij nonimmigrant status (F-1).
    Во-первых, это русский ресурс, а не американский. Почитайте првила.
    Во-вторых, восточная пословица гласит - сколько ни говори халва-халва, во рту слаще не станет. Человеку, на вполне конкретный вопрос об инвестиции, вполне конкретно ответили. Вы что-то новое сказать хотели - так скажите, а пережёвывать уже озвученное - ни к чему.
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    Tak znachit DA ili NET? vse esho ne ponel :(
    A gde nash Lev Kobrin? Pojalusta pomogite... chto skajite naschot etogo?
    Esli ya kuplyu chtoto i nachu tam vse eto "kurirovat" u menya potom problemi ne budut?
    Principe ya sam tam ne rabotayu , ya naymu amerikansev i budu plotit im dengi + taxes , nu ne znayu...

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    Quote Originally Posted by справочник
    Во-первых, это русский ресурс, а не американский. Почитайте првила.
    Во-вторых, восточная пословица гласит - сколько ни говори халва-халва, во рту слаще не станет. Человеку, на вполне конкретный вопрос об инвестиции, вполне конкретно ответили. Вы что-то новое сказать хотели - так скажите, а пережёвывать уже озвученное - ни к чему.
    Wow, I thought "grumpy old men" existed only as figments of screenwriters' imagination.

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    CCCP, да, да. Причем вы можете там спокойно работать даже и платить себе деньги как зарплату. Опыт показывает что даже если человек из IRS проверят такое, то не докапывается. Я говорю о конкретном случае, там владелец бизнеса вообще нелегалом был.
    Там где прошел дурак, злодею делать уже нечего.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGG
    CCCP, да, да. Причем вы можете там спокойно работать даже и платить себе деньги как зарплату. Опыт показывает что даже если человек из IRS проверят такое, то не докапывается. Я говорю о конкретном случае, там владелец бизнеса вообще нелегалом был.
    Вот платить себе деньги, как зарплату на постоянной основе, он как раз и не может. Владеть, получать прибыль, покупать, продавать и т.д. - может.
    A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

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