Как злые американцы пытают узников в Гвантано Мун Бэй

[Alex5448]

Алекс, как мне кажется, несколько преувеличивает свою роль в армии. да ну откуда солдатику знать чем закончилось расследование шабак :lol:

Решение террорист или не террорист принимает суд или прокуратура. И когда через месяц видишь их опять на свободе то понимаешь что не террорист.

[Hallucinogen]

конечно
бедный несчастный якобы террорист, мирно работал, вспахивал землю, все в семью и вдруг............откуда не возьмись..................нагрянули злые американцы и хоп! под замок в Гвантанамо. Ты так это представляешь? Тоесть никакой слежки, никаких подозрений, никакой инфы от информантс, просто взяли и схватили??? Не неси чушь

примерно так и было в большинстве случаев

никаких тебе шпионских страстей и доказательств

[Malishka]

примерно так и было в большинстве случаев

никаких тебе шпионских страстей и доказательств

не смеши мои тапочки

[Hallucinogen]

Если честно то не знаю

Many detainees locked up at Guantanamo were innocent men swept up by U.S. forces unable to distinguish enemies from noncombatants, a former Bush administration official said Thursday.

"There are still innocent people there," Lawrence B. Wilkerson, a Republican who was chief of staff to then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, told The Associated Press. "Some have been there six or seven years."

Wilkerson, a retired Army colonel, said vetting on the battlefield during the early stages of U.S. military operations in Afghanistan was incompetent with no meaningful attempt to determine "who we were transporting to Cuba for detention and interrogation."

"It did not matter if a detainee were innocent. Indeed, because he lived in Afghanistan and was captured on or near the battle area, he must know something of importance".
He said intelligence analysts hoped to gather "sufficient information about a village, a region, or a group of individuals, that dots could be connected and terrorists or their plots could be identified."

Wilkerson wrote that "U.S. leadership became aware of this lack of proper vetting very early on and, thus, of the reality that many of the detainees were innocent of any substantial wrongdoing, had little intelligence value, and should be immediately released."

Wilkerson told the AP in a telephone interview that many detainees "clearly had no connection to al-Qaida and the Taliban and were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Pakistanis turned many over for $5,000 a head."

Some 800 men have been held at Guantanamo since the prison opened in January 2002, and 240 remain. Wilkerson said two dozen are terrorists, including confessed Sept. 11 plotter Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was transferred to Guantanamo from CIA custody in September 2006

But the rest of the detainees need to be released, he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...-bay-innocent/

[Hallucinogen]

не смеши мои тапочки

какие у тебя интересные тапочки :wink1:

[марик - камарик]

А зачем иметь связи с такими людьми? Ты же не общаешся с ворами и убийцами к примеру, так? Так ты и не замечен в свызях. А если те общаютса значит их можно использовать для инфы

Малышка, ну откуда я знаю с кем я общаюсь? Нормальный парнишка со мной учился, а потом его посадили. Террористы ж не рассказывают всем что они террористы

[Malishka]

Малышка, ну откуда я знаю с кем я общаюсь? Нормальный парнишка со мной учился, а потом его посадили. Террористы ж не рассказывают всем что они террористы

Чего вдруг его посадили? Осторожней надо быть в знакомствах, Марик ;)

[марик - камарик]

Чего вдруг его посадили? Осторожней надо быть в знакомствах, Марик ;)

Малышка чекист :lol:

[nefertiti]

Я думал они там насилуют и избивают подозреваемых в терроризме, а они их запугивают, лишают сна и надевают наручники. Интересно, как в эфиопии обращаются с заключенными?


http://topnews.ru/news_id_34069.html

no-oo

Waterboarding is a form of torture that consists of immobilizing the subject on his back with the head inclined downwards; water is then poured over the face into breathing passages, causing the captive to experience the sensations of drowning. In contrast to submerging the head face-forward in water, waterboarding precipitates an almost immediate gag reflex. It can cause extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to lungs, brain damage from oxygen deprivation, other physical injuries including broken bones due to struggling against restraints, lasting psychological damage or, if uninterrupted, death. Adverse physical consequences can manifest themselves months after the event, while psychological effects can last for years. The term waterboarding was coined in 2004.

Dr. Allen Keller, the director of the Bellevue/NYU Program for Survivors of Torture, has treated "a number of people" who had been subjected to forms of near-asphyxiation, including waterboarding. In an interview for The New Yorker, "[He] argued that it was indeed torture, 'Some victims were still traumatized years later', he said. One patient couldn't take showers, and panicked when it rained. 'The fear of being killed is a terrifying experience', he said". Keller also stated in his testimony before the Senate that "water-boarding or mock drowning, where a prisoner is bound to an inclined board and water is poured over their face, inducing a terrifying fear of drowning clearly can result in immediate and long-term health consequences. As the prisoner gags and chokes, the terror of imminent death is pervasive, with all of the physiologic and psychological responses expected, including an intense stress response, manifested by tachycardia (rapid heart beat) and gasping for breath. There is a real risk of death from actually drowning or suffering a heart attack or damage to the lungs from inhalation of water. Long term effects include panic attacks, depression and PTSD. I remind you of the patient I described earlier who would panic and gasp for breath whenever it rained even years after his abuse".

Professor Darius Rejali of Reed College, author of Torture and Democracy (2007), speculates that the term waterboarding probably has its origin in the need for a euphemism. "There is a special vocabulary for torture. When people use tortures that are old, they rename them and alter them a wee bit. They invent slightly new words to mask the similarities. This creates an inside club, especially important in work where secrecy matters. Waterboarding is clearly a jailhouse joke. It refers to surfboarding"– a word found as early as 1929– "they are attaching somebody to a board and helping them surf. Torturers create names that are funny to them

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A form of torture similar to waterboarding called toca, and more recently "Spanish water torture", to differentiate it from the better known Chinese water torture, along with garrucha (or strappado) and the most frequently used potro (or the rack), was used infrequently during the trial portion of the Spanish Inquisition process. "The toca, also called tortura del agua, consisted of introducing a cloth into the mouth of the victim, and forcing them to ingest water spilled from a jar so that they had the impression of drowning". William Schweiker claims that the use of water as a form of torture also had profound religious significance to the Inquisitors.

During World War II both Japanese troops, especially the Kempeitai, and the officers of the Gestapo, the German secret police, used waterboarding as a method of torture.