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    Quote Originally Posted by Дженни View Post
    шарашкина контора приводит четкие цифры и параметры исследований

    абсолютно легитимные и достоверные

    в твоей ссылке не указано НИЧЕГО
    Ты что, читать разучилась?:115:


    Gender Identity. In studies of children ranging in
    age from 5 to 14, results of projective testing and
    related interview procedures have revealed that
    development of gender identity among children of
    lesbian mothers follows the expected pattern
    (Green, 1978; Green,Mandel, Hotvedt, Gray, &
    Smith, 1986; Kirkpatrick, Smith & Roy, 1981).
    More direct assessment techniques to assess gender
    identity have been used by Golombok, Spencer, &
    Rutter (1983) with the same result: All children in
    this study reported that they were happy with their
    gender and that they had no wish to be a member
    of the opposite sex. There was no evidence in any
    of the studies of gender identity of any difficulties
    among children of lesbian mothers. No data have
    been reported in this area for children of gay fathers.
    Gender-Role Behavior. A number of studies have
    reported that gender-role behavior among children
    of lesbian mothers fell within typical limits for conventional
    sex roles (Brewaeys et al., 1997; Golombok
    et al., 1983; Gottman, 1990; Green, 1978; Green et
    al., 1986; Hoeffer, 1981; Kirkpatrick et al., 1981;
    Kweskin & Cook, 1982; Patterson, 1994a). For
    instance, Kirkpatrick and her colleagues (1981)
    found no differences between children of lesbian
    versus heterosexual mothers in toy preferences,
    activities, interests, or occupational choices.
    Rees (1979) administered the Bem Sex Role
    Inventory (BSRI) to 24 adolescents, half of whom
    had divorced lesbian and half of whom had divorced
    heterosexual mothers. The BSRI yields scores on
    masculinity and femininity as independent factors
    and an androgyny score based on the ratio of masculinity
    to femininity. Children of lesbian and heterosexual
    mothers did not differ on masculinity or
    on androgyny, but children of lesbian mothers
    reported greater psychological femininity than did
    those of heterosexual mothers. This result would
    seem to run counter to expectations based on
    stereotypes of lesbians as lacking in femininity, both
    in their own demeanor and in their likely influences
    on children.
    Gender-role behavior of children was also assessed
    by Green and his colleagues (1986). In interviews
    with the children, no differences between the 56
    children of lesbian and 48 children of heterosexual
    mothers were found with respect to favorite television
    programs, favorite television characters, or
    favorite games or toys. There was some indication
    in interviews with children themselves that the offspring
    of lesbian mothers had less sex-typed preferences
    for activities at school and in their neighborhoods
    than did children of heterosexual mothers.
    Consistent with this result, lesbian mothers were
    also more likely than heterosexual mothers to
    report that their daughters often participated in
    rough-and-tumble play or occasionally played with
    "masculine" toys such as trucks or guns, but they
    reported no differences in these areas for sons.
    Lesbian mothers were no more and no less likely than
    heterosexual mothers to report that their children
    often played with "feminine" toys such as dolls. In
    both family types, however, children's sex-role behavior
    was seen as falling within the expected range.
    More recently, Brewaeys and her colleagues (1997)
    assessed gender-role behavior among 30, 4- to 8-
    year-old children who had been conceived via
    donor insemination by lesbian couples, and compared
    it to that of 30 same-aged children who had
    been conceived via donor insemination by heterosexual
    couples, and to that of 30 same-aged children
    who had been naturally conceived by heterosexual
    couples. They used the Pre-School Activities
    Inventory (Golombok & Rust, 1993), a maternal
    report questionnaire designed to identify “masculine”
    and “feminine” behavior among boys and girls
    within unselected samples of schoolchildren. They
    found no significant differences between children of
    lesbian and children of heterosexual parents on
    preferences for gendered toys, games, and activities
    (Brewaeys et al., 1997).
    In summary, the research suggests that children of
    lesbian mothers develop patterns of gender-role
    behavior that are much like those of other children.

    Sexual Orientation. A number of investigators have
    also studied a third component of sexual identity,
    sexual orientation (Bailey, Bobrow,Wolfe, &
    Mickach, 1995; Bozett, 1980, 1987, 1989; Gottman,
    1990; Golombok & Tasker, 1996; Green, 1978;
    Huggins, 1989; Miller, 1979; Paul, 1986; Rees, 1979;
    Tasker & Golombok, 1997). In all studies, the great
    majority of offspring of both lesbian mothers and
    gay fathers described themselves as heterosexual.
    Taken together, the data do not suggest elevated rates
    of homosexuality among the offspring of lesbian or
    gay parents. For instance, Huggins (1989) interviewed
    36 adolescents, half of whom had lesbian
    mothers and half of whom had heterosexual mothers.
    No children of lesbian mothers identified themselves
    as lesbian or gay, but one child of a heterosexual
    mother did; this difference was not statistically
    significant. In another study, Bailey and his colleagues
    (1995) studied adult sons of gay fathers and
    found more than 90% of the sons to be heterosexual.
    Golombok and Tasker (1996, 1997) studied 25
    young adults reared by divorced lesbian mothers
    and 21 young adults reared by divorced heterosexual
    mothers. They reported that offspring of lesbian
    mothers were no more likely than those of heterosexual
    mothers to describe themselves as feeling
    attracted to same-sex sexual partners. If they were
    attracted in this way, however, young adults with lesbian
    mothers were more likely to report that they
    would consider entering into a same-sex sexual relationship,
    and they were more likely to have actually
    participated in such a relationship. They were not,
    however, more likely to identify themselves as nonheterosexual
    (i.e., as lesbian, gay, or bisexual). These
    results were based on a small sample, and they must
    be interpreted with caution. At the same time, the
    study is the first to follow children of divorced lesbian
    mothers into adulthood, and it offers a detailed
    and careful examination of important issues.
    Other Aspects of Personal Development
    Studies of other aspects of personal development
    among children of lesbian and gay parents have
    assessed a broad array of characteristics. Among
    these have been separation-individuation (Steckel,
    1985, 1987), psychiatric evaluations (Golombok et
    al., 1983; Kirkpatrick et al., 1981), behavior problems
    (Brewaeys et al., 1997; Chan, Raboy et al., 1998;
    Flaks, et al., 1995; Gartrell, Deck, Rodas, Peyser, &
    Banks, 2005; Golombok et al., 1983, 1997; Patterson,
    1994a; Tasker & Golombok, 1995, 1997;Wainright
    et al., 2004), personality (Gottman, 1990; Tasker &
    Golombok, 1995, 1997), self-concept (Golombok,
    Tasker, & Murray, 1997; Gottman, 1990, Huggins,
    1989; Patterson, 1994a; Puryear, 1983;Wainright et
    al., 2004), locus of control (Puryear, 1983; Rees,
    1979), moral judgment (Rees, 1979), school adjustment
    (Wainright et al., 2004), and intelligence
    (Green et al., 1986). Research suggests that concerns
    about difficulties in these areas among children of
    lesbian mothers are unwarranted (Patterson, 1997,
    2000; Parks, 1998; Perrin, 1998, 2002; Stacey &
    Biblarz, 2001; Tasker, 1999). As was the case for sexual
    identity, studies of these aspects of personal
    development have revealed no major differences
    between children of lesbian versus heterosexual
    mothers. One statistically significant difference in
    self-concept emerged in Patterson's (1994a) study:
    Children of lesbian mothers reported greater symptoms
    of stress but also a greater overall sense of
    well-being than did children in a comparison group
    (Patterson, 1994a); but this result has yet to be replicated.
    Overall, the belief that children of lesbian
    and gay parents suffer deficits in personal development
    has no empirical foundation.
    Social Relationships
    Studies assessing potential differences between children
    of lesbian and gay parents, on the one hand,
    and children of heterosexual parents, on the other,
    have sometimes included assessments of children's
    social relationships. The most common focus of
    attention has been on peer relations, but some information
    about children's relationships with adults
    has also been collected. Research findings that
    address the likelihood of sexual abuse are also summarized
    in this section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex5448 View Post
    Лессе пасе ("теудат маавар") даётся в двух случаях:
    1. Когда новый репатриант находится до года в стране.
    2. Гражданин потерял паспорт уже 3 раза, и из за этого является риском безопасности.

    В первом случае это логично, потому что у нас, в отличии от всего мира, гражданство получается на первом же дне и есть некоторые интернациональные договорённости.
    Второй случай вроде само собой разумеется.

    А как там у вас с паспортом "негражданина"? 300,000 вроде вообще не граждане у вас:115:
    Отдельно хорошо или плохо такое массовое безгражданство.Но по факту, у нас ограничены в правах НЕграждане по сравнению с гражданами. В Израиле же откровенно есть граждане двух сортов.
    «У ведьмы всегда подол криво подшит!»
    А почему криво?
    Да потому что ей пофиг!
    Главное - чтоб метла покрепче, чтоб полетать подальше и повыше

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilu View Post
    Отдельно хорошо или плохо такое массовое безгражданство.Но по факту, у нас ограничены в правах НЕграждане по сравнению с гражданами. В Израиле же откровенно есть граждане двух сортов.
    Чистая демагогия. У нас это по административным причинам, так же примерно как в америке отбирают паспорт у алиментщиков.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex5448 View Post
    Ты что, читать разучилась?:115:
    ты сам явно не читал приведенную ссылку



    They reported that offspring of lesbian
    mothers were no more likely than those of heterosexual
    mothers to describe themselves as feeling
    attracted to same-sex sexual partners. If they were
    attracted in this way, however, young adults with lesbian
    mothers were more likely to report that they
    would consider entering into a same-sex sexual relationship,
    and they were more likely to have actually
    participated in such a relationship.
    They were not,
    however, more likely to identify themselves as nonheterosexual
    (i.e., as lesbian, gay, or bisexual). These
    results were based on a small sample, and they must
    be interpreted with caution


    как они аккуратненько пишут про таки найденные отличия - явно не хотят расстраивать тех кто заказал исследования
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    Quote Originally Posted by Дженни View Post
    а в сауди смертная казнь вроде
    ты такая...недобрая в это утро (s)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dova View Post
    ты такая...недобрая в это утро (s)
    это ты злая

    посылаешь всех в заарканить
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    Default Re: Ну все, понеслась! :)

    надо мне на тетке жениться. выберу такую чтобы готовила вкусно и убирала за кошками
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    Quote Originally Posted by Дженни View Post
    это ты злая

    посылаешь всех в заарканить
    не всех, а только женихов
    тебе что,Джек не нравится ? ну вообще уже ...вы там

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    Quote Originally Posted by Дженни View Post
    надо мне на тетке жениться. выберу такую чтобы готовила вкусно и убирала за кошками
    давай
    и тему открой )))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dova View Post
    не всех, а только женихов
    тебе что,Джек не нравится ? ну вообще уже ...вы там
    в смысле - вообще? мне вообще никто не нравится

    киану ривз вот нравился, но тоже стал старый и страшный
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