Thread: Кто будущий президент США?

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    немного длинновато, но с чувством:


    "Pay attention libs…

    The choice in this election couldn’t be clearer.

    You can either vote for Obama and keep getting free stuff from the government until it collapses under its own weight, hoping you won’t be the parasite who finally kills the host, or you can vote for Romney and realize a lot of uncomfortable but necessary fiscal pain is coming the nation’s way.

    It’s Fantasyland vs. Realville.

    It’s Economic Fantasy vs. Economic Reality.

    In Economic Fantasy, the federal government has an infinite amount of money and resources to spend on anything it wants, and any life touched by government subsidy is happy and magical. Once someone starts getting subsidies, those subsidies can never go away because it will hurt someone. Thus all cuts, no matter how modest, are draconian because somebody’s grandma will lose their livelihood.

    In Economic Reality, we’re the brokest nation in history, our government rewards sloth and apathy, and, newsflash young kids: By the time you’d be eligible for all the government spending you think is good, proper, and necessary, the money for your benefits will have long run out. If you’re 50 you have a prayer of being the last one grandfathered in. If you’re 20 you’re just delusional.

    If you are 20 and you vote for a Democrat you are voting against your economic interests. Plain and simple. I don’t care how progressive your values are, I don’t care how much you feel morally or intellectually superior to social conservatives for your stances on gay marriage and abortion – if you vote for a Democrat you are voting for fiscal insolvency for which you will pay the tab, because by all estimates you are going to outlive the programs you feel are so vital. Democrats will not fix these programs. Democrats have not even offered a budget in four years – something they are constitutionally mandated to do. They are an unserious party for unserious times – this is not one of those times.

    Romney and Ryan are not ideologues and to suggest they are is ahistorical and ignorant. When Mitt Romney was Governor of Massachusetts he had to work with an 85% Democratic legislature. He vetoed them hundreds of times and they overrode his veto often. He even vetoed 3/4ths of the provisions of Romneycare. For Ryan’s part his Medicare reform plan is called Ryan-Wyden – Wyden would be a liberal Democrat from Oregon.

    Romney and Ryan have both been willing to put their necks on the line for serious policy proposals. Democrats respond with distortion, hyperbole, and demonization, but no plans of their own. Ever since 2010 Republicans have taken the lead on sending bill after bill to the upper chamber, and have been obstructed by Harry Reid. These are the facts, this is reality.

    Be a Dem partisan if you want. But I can’t afford that idiocy anymore and neither can you. Our tax rates our uncompetitive and must be lowered while broadening the base, even Canada and China have lowered their rates. Once Republicans steamroll Democrats out of the Senate and White House this November, we’ll have substantially fewer problems with obstruction and go back to having a budget, not this continuing resolution garbage. Once we have a budget we’ll be able to make baseline cuts and possibly pass a Balanced Budget Amendment. It may be true that Ryan’s budget proposal doesn’t go far enough – but if you’re a Democrat, don’t pretend you wouldn’t attack a more vigorous proposal as anti-poor or anti-woman or whatever BS you’d be selling. You’d say Paul Ryan was trying to throw grandma off a cliff. Oh wait, Democrats already ran that ad.

    I have no illusions about Mitt Romney. He is a transactional figure who does what is asked of him and not much more. He is driven entirely by results. Results are what we need right now, not intentions, not “hope and change.”

    We don’t have the money for games any more. If you fear business owners – your fear is misplaced. You spend every moment of every day on a device a business owner innovated and made. If you believe the profit motive is evil – your belief is ignorant and ill-founded. Profit is what’s left over after costs, and what business owners reinvest to keep improving those businesses and their products.

    Willful economic illiteracy is no longer cost free. Complete ignorance of how the economy works is no longer acceptable. America as a nation can’t afford those idiotic idealistic notions to drive votes anymore. Obama embodies both, and therefore cannot be re-elected. He is far in over his head and would rather talk about how Romney hates women or Romney murdered somebody’s wife, somehow, or how somehow a tax cut for the bracket most small business owners file in is a tax raise on the rest of America. Even if you hate America and want to see it fail, it will have a sinkhole effect on the global economy you can’t imagine, and the first nations to go will be whatever nation Russia or China decide to attack first, since the US bankrolls the defense for pretty much the rest of the world.

    I’m tired of it, won’t stand for it, and am doing everything in my power to get Republicans elected this year. Now is the time, and I fear it’s the last chance any of us may have to turn this around."

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    less attention has been paid, though, to Ryan’s hard-right positions on social issues. Indeed, on abortion and women’s health care, there isn’t much daylight between Ryan and, say, Michele Bachmann. Any Republican vice-presidential candidate is going to be broadly anti-abortion, but Ryan goes much further. He believes ending a pregnancy should be illegal even when it results from rape or incest, or endangers a woman’s health. He was a cosponsor of the Sanctity of Human Life Act, a federal bill defining fertilized eggs as human beings, which, if passed, would criminalize some forms of birth control and in vitro fertilization. The National Right to Life Committee has scored his voting record 100 percent every year since he entered the House in 1999. “I’m as pro-life as a person gets,” he told The Weekly Standard’s John McCormack in 2010. “You’re not going to have a truce.”
    The guy's total fruit-cake...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screw101 View Post
    The guy's total fruit-cake...
    Первоисточник - планы Райана по этому вопросу.
    Всё бы было Смешно,если бы (по прочтении) не было грустно.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screw101 View Post
    Тхе гуыьс тотал фруит-цаке...
    что-то вы помягчели, забыли заподозрить его в скрытом гомосексуализме

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izold View Post
    что-то вы помягчели, забыли заподозрить его в скрытом гомосексуализме
    Rick Santorum's a latent homosexual. Paul Ryan is a right-wing loon.
    Had I been a republican I would've been seriously concerned. You just lost the elections. Радоваться тут нечему. В стране отсутствует нормальная здоровая оппозиция.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screw101 View Post
    Rick Santorum's a latent homosexual. Paul Ryan is a right-wing loon.
    Had I been a republican I would've been seriously concerned. You just lost the elections. Радоваться тут нечему. В стране отсутствует нормальная здоровая оппозиция.
    Откуда вы об этом знаете? Он вам делал предложения.
    Всё бы было Смешно,если бы (по прочтении) не было грустно.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallucinogen View Post
    ........такая же как черт побери страховка по безработице, которую платят все, а получают те, кто работу потерял..

    ......:
    а расскажи, пожалуйста, если её "платят все", то почему во всех этих зачуханных "маленьких бизнесах" быть уволенным с правом получения этого пособия для сотрудника равносильно получению ордена трудового красного знамени в СССР?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screw101 View Post
    Рицк Санторумьс а латент хомосехуал. Паул Рян ис а ригхт-щинг лоон.
    Хад И беен а републицан И щоулдьве беен сериоуслы цонцернед. Ёу юст лост тхе елецтионс. Радоваться тут нечему. В стране отсутствует нормальная здоровая оппозиция.
    ]

    если бы я был республиканцем, то обязательно законсернился бы... а насчёт выборов - республиканцы только что, 2010, kicked ass, так сказать.
    кстати, вы ж, вроде как, "либертарианец", а план вышеуказанный Рон Пол предложил

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whoever View Post
    а расскажи, пожалуйста, если её "платят все", то почему во всех этих зачуханных "маленьких бизнесах" быть уволенным с правом получения этого пособия для сотрудника равносильно получению ордена трудового красного знамени в СССР?
    я не знаю как ответить на этот крайне странный вопрос.. орден ? Красное Знамя ? зачуханый бизнес ?

    ты о чем ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screw101 View Post
    Rick Santorum's a latent homosexual. Paul Ryan is a right-wing loon.
    Had I been a republican I would've been seriously concerned. You just lost the elections. Радоваться тут нечему. В стране отсутствует нормальная здоровая оппозиция.
    да, оцуцтвует, но не потомушо та шо oHa не нормальная или не здоровая, а потомушо тута власть это переходящее красное знамя которое переходит от своих к своим а всем остальным расказуют сказки для лохов, играют на лошиных эмоциях, кароче кено и немцы и сериал сантабарбара.

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