Gay Marriage in NYS

[STYLE]

Хороша логика.
даже пришел на ум каламбурЬ - "коль животных можно есть - значит можно их и еТь".

Надо зоофилам в речевку это взять :rofl:

[STYLE]

как это "мясо" ?! кто ест?! сам я никогда не видал, только слышал. вы, наверное, очень хорошо живёшь....
ты всё продолжаешь попутывать, пытаясь заменить права коз правами китайцев и других,не очень равноправных с натуралами, этнических особей...
можно ёрничать до умопомрачения (не очень долго, то есть), но сравнивать зоофилию с гомосексуализмом/лесбиянством - довольно пошло. да и особой нУжды нету, поскольку даже твердолобые сенаторы в Нуёрке поняли, откуда ветер дует :grum:
но борьбу за права других меньшинств продолжай, вода камень точит :wink1:

Вот видишь, ты (давай на ты, если это допустимо для тебя) уже отрицаешь очевидное. Я понимаю, когда в споре нет аргументов, приходится применять всяческме приемы, как уведение в сторону, подмена объекта спора и т.д.
Забудь про коз, давай поговорим о людях, чье сексуальное влечение направлено на животных, кроликов, черепах, собачек, собачек зачеркнуто. а то Дов обидется вообщем на любуюживность. Почему ты считаешь, что имеешь право запрещать им заниматься их любимым делом у себя в спальне?

[Lor]

Почему бы и нет. Во многих европейских странах она легальна... Чем Америка хуже? А ну да, ну да - пуритане. Конечно.

Не пуритане, а ханжи. Лицемеры, если по-русски. Зато выбрали президеном негра. Во всем есть свои положительные и отрицательные стороны.

[Бегемот]

Federal Marriage Benefits Denied to Same-Sex Couples

Whether married or not, gay and lesbian same-sex couples are denied many federal benefits that are available to heterosexual married couples. Gay and lesbian same-sex couples, whether married or not, are denied a whole host of benefits that the federal government provides to heterosexual married couples. There are over one thousand federal laws in which marriage status is a factor. These laws confer rights, protections, and benefits to married couples. Partners in same-sex couples cannot receive these important benefits -- from Social Security survivor benefits to federal tax benefits to federal employee health and retirement benefits.

Although a few states now allow gay and lesbian couples to marry, the majority of states still don't recognize marriages between partners of the same sex. Some, like California, allow same-sex couples to register as domestic partners. For purposes of most federal laws, these distinctions make no difference. Gay or lesbian same-sex couples, whether unmarried, married, or registered as domestic partners, are not permitted to enjoy the federal marriage benefits provided to heterosexual married couples.

The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA)According to Section 3 of the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), the federal government only respects marriages between a man and a woman. This means that even if a same-sex couple's marriage is recognized by their home state, it is not recognized for the purposes of accessing marriage benefits in federal law. So, for example, a gay married couple in Massachusetts can take advantage of state laws conferring the benefits of marriage, but not any of the benefits provided by federal law.



Here are some of the federal benefits that same-sex couples cannot receive.

Social Security BenefitsMarried heterosexual couples get a big financial boost from certain Social Security benefit programs that do not apply to same-sex couples. For some gay and lesbian partners, the denial of these benefits can mean spending later years in poverty.

Spousal survivor benefit. A surviving spouse of a worker entitled to Social Security retirement or disability benefits may be entitled to receive retirement benefits based on the deceased spouse's earning record.

Spousal retirement benefit. For retired married couples, a person whose calculated Social Security benefit is lower than that of his spouse may take half of his spouse's higher benefit, rather than receive the amount calculated from his own earnings.

Lump-sum death benefit. A surviving spouse gets $255 from the federal government to help pay for funeral arrangements.

To learn more about Social Security benefits, see Nolo's article Social Security Benefits: Retirement, Disability, Dependents, and Survivors.

Tax BenefitsSame-sex gay and lesbian couples cannot take advantage of federal tax benefits conferred upon married heterosexual couples.

Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS. Filing a joint return offers advantages over separate returns. Many same-sex couples lose thousands of dollars per year because they have to file separate tax returns with the IRS.

Creating a "family partnership." This federal tax law allows couples to divide business income among family members, again resulting in big tax savings.

Estate Tax and Estate Planning BenefitsSame-sex married couples cannot take advantage of a myriad of estate planning benefits available to married couples of the same sex.

Estate and gift tax exemption. Federal law exempts a certain amount of money from federal estate taxes and federal gift taxes for all property left to a surviving spouse (currently the exemption is $3.5 million). The surviving spouse does not pay taxes on any amount she receives from her deceased spouse that's under the exemption limit.

Estate Tax "Portability." Married couples can combine their personal estate tax exemptions. This means that the second spouse to die can leave property worth up to $10 million free from federal estate tax. Gay or lesbian couples do not get the "portability," so that the second spouse to die can leave only $5 million tax-free.

Life estate trusts. Heterosexual married couples can create life estate trusts, including QTIP trusts and QDOT trusts, which provide distinct tax advantages upon the death of one spouse. For example, the QTIP trust allows surviving spouses to use trust property tax-free in certain circumstances. The QDOT trust allows a non-U.S. citizen surviving spouses to postpone paying any estate taxes above the exemption amount.

Veteran and Military BenefitsThe heterosexual spouses of deceased veterans are entitled to a myriad of benefits, including health care, death pensions, educational assistance, home loan guarantees, vocational training, and bereavement counseling.

Spouses of living military personnel may be eligible for health care, family separation pay, and relocation assistance, among many other benefits. For more information, see the Veteran Benefit Administration website. Same-sex spouses are not entitled to these services and benefits.

Federal Employment BenefitsMore than 22 million Americans are employed by the federal government. Many of the employment benefits that the federal government provides to its employees and their families are tied to marriage status. These benefits, which are part of the employee's compensation package, are denied to gay and lesbian employees. Examples of a few of these benefits include:

health insurance for spouses, andwages, worker's compensation, health insurance, and retirement plan benefits for the surviving spouse of a deceased federal worker.In June, 2009, President Obama signed the Presidential Memorandum on Federal Benefits and Non-Discrimination. The memorandum extends several employment benefits to gay and lesbian federal employees, including:

the right to use sick time to care for a same-sex spouse or partner, or a non-biological, non-adopted childthe right to add a partner to a long-term care insurance program, andfor partners of Foreign Service employees, the right to use medical facilities at posts abroad, be evacuated for medical reasons from posts abroad, and be included in family size for housing allocations.Immigration BenefitsMany immigration benefits are tied to marital status. For example, a non-U.S. citizen may obtain legal residency, and later citizenship status, when married to a U.S. citizen. Non-U.S. citizens who are in same-sex marriages or partnerships are not entitled to this benefit. This is true even if the couple has a valid marriage certificate from a country that allows same-sex marriages...




вот так, коротЕнько :grum:

вот именно этого я и добивался!!!
Спасибо!
Кейс клоузд!
Пусть делают все что угодно, хоть блин каждому по два сертификата!
Вопросов больше нет! :34:

[RealDeal]

Не пуритане, а ханжи. Лицемеры, если по-русски. Зато выбрали президеном негра. Во всем есть свои положительные и отрицательные стороны.

Президнтом выбрали не негра, как ты выразился, а очень образованного черного.

Почти уверен, что его избирут на второй срок, и я во второй раз с большим удовольствием поапладирую такому решению. :34:

[Бегемот]

Президнтом выбрали не негра, как ты выразился, а очень образованного черного.

Почти уверен, что его избирут на второй срок, и я во второй раз с большим удовольствием поапладирую такому решению. :34:

не, не думаю что второй раз эта фишка прокатит.
и не черный он вовсе, а мешаный.
это все от неприятия.

[RealDeal]

Почему бы и нет. Во многих европейских странах она легальна... Чем Америка хуже? А ну да, ну да - пуритане. Конечно.

Например, в Голландии где имел возможность побывать.
Проститутки сидят за окном, подходи и разговаривай.
Все законно, под надзором полиции, и налоговых органов.
Плати деньги - делай свое дело - и иди своей дорогой.
Секс без презерватива запрещен.

[RealDeal]

не, не думаю что второй раз эта фишка прокатит.
и не черный он вовсе, а мешаный.
это все от неприятия.

Уверен, что выберут во второй раз. :34:
А больше некого, да и лучше нет.

[STYLE]

Например, в Голландии где имел возможность побывать.
Проститутки сидят за окном, подходи и разговаривай.
Все законно, под надзором полиции, и налоговых органов.
Плати деньги - делай свое дело - и иди своей дорогой.
Секс без презерватива запрещен.

Там и кофе-шопы есть и грибы в свободной продаже, и наркотики на каждом углу продают.

[Бегемот]

Уверен, что выберут во второй раз. :34:
А больше некого, да и лучше нет.

это совсем отдельная тема.
и не надо быть уверенным.
что же касается лучше, то таки есть, но врядли пролезет.