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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    I keep running into people that claim “there were no WMD found in Iraq”. Well, maybe in some strict sense that is true. The chemical weapons had already been used on his own people with the remainder smuggled to Syria prior to the 2003 invasion. And the yellow cake uranium was already known from the U.N. inspectors before the invasion.

    Yellow cake uranium? Isn’t that what everyone said Bush lied about?
    No, it is not
    That's what Bush (the liar) said:
    The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa
    That's what yellowcake shipment to Canada is about:
    2008: Uranium recently shipped from Iraq to Canada was left over from Saddam Hussein's defunct nuclear weapons program and had been in sealed containers, under guard, since the end of the first Gulf War in 1991. Claims that this material is "vindication" for President Bush's WMD claims in 2003 are completely false.

    This particular stock of uranium was not recently discovered — and it was no secret. It had been stored in sealed containers, since before the first Gulf War, according to the AP. Saddam Hussein was forced to allow United Nations inspectors into Iraq in 1991, as part of the cease-fire that ended the first Gulf War. The U.N. Security Council's agreement required Hussein to dismantle Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, in exchange for lifting the 1990 economic sanctions imposed on Iraq. The inspectors monitored Iraq's disarmament, and later guarded this uranium. More recently, U.S. and Iraqi forces have been guarding it, since Iraqis looted the site after Hussein’s fall from power.

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    continuation

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    It appears that American troops found the 550 metric tons of uranium in 2003 after invading Iraq. They had to sit on this
    information and the uranium itself for fear of terrorists attempting to steal it. It was guarded and kept safe by our
    military in a 23,000-acre site with large sand beams surrounding the site.

    This is vindication for the Bush administration, having been attacked mercilessly by the liberal media and the far-left
    pundits on the blogo-sphere. Now that it is proven that President Bush did not lie about Saddam's nuclear ambitions, one
    would think that the mainstream media would report the true story. Once the AP released the story, the mainstream media
    should have picked it up and broadcast it worldwide.

    That never happened, due in large part, I believe, to the fact that the mainstream media would have to admit they were wrong
    about Bush's war motives all along. Thankfully, the AP got it right when it said, "The removal of 550 metric tons of
    yellowcake, the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment, was a significant step toward closing the books on
    Saddam's nuclear legacy."

    Closing the book on Saddam's nuclear legacy? Did Saddam have a nuclear legacy after all? I thought Bush lied? As it turns
    out, the people who lied were Joe Wilson and his wife.

    Valerie Plame engaged in a clear case of nepotism and convinced the CIA to send her husband on a fact finding mission in
    February 2002, seeking to determine if Saddam Hussein attempted to buy yellowcake from Niger. The CIA and British
    intelligence believed Saddam contacted Niger for that purpose but needed proof.

    During his trip to Niger, Wilson actually interviewed the former prime minister of Niger, Ibrahim Assane Mayaki. Mayaki told
    Wilson that in June of 1999, an Iraqi delegation expressed interest in "expanding commercial relations" for the purposes of
    purchasing yellowcake.

    Wilson chose to overlook Mahaki's remarks and reported to the CIA that there was no evidence of Hussein wanting to purchase
    yellow cake from Niger.

    However, with British intelligence insisting the claim was true, President Bush used that same claim in his State of the
    Union address in January of 2003. Outraged by Bush's insistence that the claim was true, Wilson wrote an op-ed in the New
    York Times in the summer of 2003 slamming Bush.

    Wilson did this in spite of the fact that Mayaki said Saddam did try to buy the yellowcake from Niger. The Senate Select
    Committee on Intelligence disagreed with Wilson and supported Mayaki's claim. This meant nothing to Wilson who was opposed
    to the Iraq war and thus had ulterior motives in covering up the prime minister's statements.

    It was a simple tactic, really. If the far-left and their friends in the media could prove Bush lied about Hussein wanting
    to purchase yellowcake from Niger, it would undermine President Bush's credibility and give them more cause for asking what
    other lies he may have told.

    Yet the real lie came from Wilson, who interpreted his own meaning from the prime minister's statements and concluded all by
    himself that the claim of Saddam attempting to purchase yellowcake was "unequivocally wrong." Curiously the CIA sat on this
    information and did not inform the CIA Director, who sided with Bush on the yellowcake claim. This was made public in a
    bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report in July 2004.

    Valerie Plame also engaged in her own lie campaign by spreading the notion that the Bush Administration outed her as a CIA
    agent. Never mind that it was Richard Armitage - no friend of the Bush administration - who leaked Plame's identity to the
    press. Never mind that Plame had not been in the field as a CIA agent in some six years.

    The truth is, due to their opposition to the war, Joe Wilson, Valerie Plame, the mainstream media, and their left-wing
    friends on the blogo-sphere engaged in a propaganda campaign to undermine the Bush administration. Now that Saddam's uranium
    has been made public and is no longer a threat to the world, do you think these aforementioned parties will apologize and
    admit they were wrong?

    Don't count on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    continuation
    оветил выше

    не удивлюсь впрочем, если эти чейн-имэйлы народ принимает за чистую монету
    все ведь просто - там yellowcake... и здесь yellowcake, ктож пойдет в детальках разбираться ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallucinogen View Post
    No, it is not
    That's what Bush (the liar) said:


    That's what yellowcake shipment to Canada is about:
    What about that whole big scandal with Valerie Plame-Wilson and ex Prime Minister of Niger, Mayaki??? That was NO SECRET also and everybody knew about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    What about that whole big scandal with Valerie Plame-Wilson and ex Prime Minister of Niger, Mayaki??? That was NO SECRET also and everybody knew about it?
    скандал заключался в том, что обвинения о покупке Ираком урана в Нигерии оказались фальшивкой (в прямом смысле - "обнаруженные" документы были подделкой), на что указали Плэйм-Вилсон, за что и были наказаны

    тот склад, о котором идет речь, действительно секретом не были, по договору этот склад контролировала и мониторила ООН, все об этом знали

    никакого отношения эти два события друг к другу НЕ имеют... это подметное письмо - чистой воды искажение действительности, рассчитанное на непритязательный моск

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallucinogen View Post
    оветил выше

    не удивлюсь впрочем, если эти чейн-имэйлы народ принимает за чистую монету
    все ведь просто - там yellowcake... и здесь yellowcake, ктож пойдет в детальках разбираться ?
    для тех, кто до сих пор считает Саддама Хусейна непричастным никоим боком к 9-11 теракту

    This is Abu Musab al Zarqawi. After running an al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan, he found his way to Baathist Baghdad, where he reportedly checked into Olympic Hospital, an elite facility run by the late Uday Hussein, son of the captured tyrant. Zarqawi is believed to have received medical treatment for a leg injury sustained while dodging American GIs who toppled the Taliban. He convalesced in Baghdad for some two months. Once he was back on his foot, Zarqawi then opened an Ansar al-Islam terrorist training camp in northern Iraq. Zarqawi is thought to be behind the October 28, 2002 assassination of this man, Lawrence Foley
    ...
    http://www.husseinandterror.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    для тех, кто до сих пор считает Саддама Хусейна непричастным никоим боком к 9-11 теракту


    http://www.husseinandterror.com/
    с yellowcake разобрались или как ?
    а то мы так и будем прыгать с темы на тему

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    для тех, кто до сих пор считает Саддама Хусейна непричастным никоим боком к 9-11 теракту


    http://www.husseinandterror.com/
    что касаемо Ал-Закрави как "свидетельства" причастности Ирака к 9/11:
    Senate Intelligence Committee released its long-awaited "Phase II" report on Iraq, concluding that Saddam Hussein not only offered no support for al Qaeda but repeatedly turned down requests for aid. As for Zarqawi, to whom some Bush allies once pointed as evidence of Saddam's supposed ties to al Qaeda, the Senate report said Saddam tried and failed to capture him when he slipped into Baghdad under an alias in 2002, possibly seeking medical treatment. It said Saddam's regime "did not have a relationship with, harbor or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi." In fact, the Senate cited information from an al Qaeda detainee that Saddam "considered al-Zaraqi to be an outlaw."

    Zarqawi left and "he did not return to Baghdad until June 2003, after the fall of the Saddam Hussein regime," according to the report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallucinogen View Post
    скандал заключался в том, что обвинения о покупке Ираком урана в Нигерии оказались фальшивкой (в прямом смысле - "обнаруженные" документы были подделкой), на что указали Плэйм-Вилсон, за что и были наказаны

    тот склад, о котором идет речь, действительно секретом не были, по договору этот склад контролировала и мониторила ООН, все об этом знали

    никакого отношения эти два события друг к другу НЕ имеют... это подметное письмо - чистой воды искажение действительности, рассчитанное на непритязательный моск
    ты ссылаешься на 2-й доклад о до-военных развед.данных об Ираке???

    http://intelligence.senate.gov/press....cfm?id=298775
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallucinogen View Post
    с yellowcake разобрались или как ?
    а то мы так и будем прыгать с темы на тему
    не совсем, ещё надо подчитать прежде чем составить окончательное мнение.
    А так, конечно, выглядит как подтасовка фактов, хотя инфы о том, что НАТО ЗНАЛИ и МОНИТОРИЛИ склады с необогащённым уранием -- не было. Во всяком случае об этом стало известно только в 2008.

    Потом МОСАД сообщил развед.данные, что Ирак переправил ОМП в Сирию ещё до вторжения США в 2003.
    http://www.nysun.com/editorials/iraqs-yellowcake/81328/
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