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    Статистика по католикам (да нет сравнения с не-католиками) но тем не менее приведу:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases

    The 2004 John Jay Report[22] was based on a study of 10,667 allegations against 4,392 priests accused of engaging in sexual abuse of a minor between 1950 and 2002. The number 4,392 represents four percent of the 109,694 priests in active ministry during that time. Of these 4,392, approximately:

    * 56 percent had one reported allegation against them; 27 percent had two or three allegations against them; nearly 14 percent had four to nine allegations against them; 3 percent (149 priests) had 10 or more allegations against them. These 149 priests were responsible for almost 3,000 victims, or 27 percent of the allegations.[14]
    * The allegations were substantiated for 1,872 priests and unsubstantiated for 824 priests. They were thought to be credible for 1,671 priests and not credible for 345 priests. 298 priests and deacons who had been completely exonerated are not included in the study.
    * 50 percent were 35 years of age or younger at the time of the first instance of alleged abuse.[14]
    * Almost 70 percent were ordained before 1970.[14]
    * Fewer than 7 percent were reported to have themselves been victims of physical, sexual or emotional abuse as children. Although 19 percent had alcohol or substance abuse problems, only 9 percent were reported to have been using drugs or alcohol during the instances of abuse.[14]

    There were approximately 10,667 reported minor victims of clergy sexual abuse during this period:

    * Around 81 percent of these victims were male.
    * 22.6% were age 10 or younger, 51% were between the ages of 11 and 14, and 27% were between the ages to 15 to 17 years.[14][23][24]
    * A substantial number (almost 2000) of very young children were victimized by priests during this time period.
    * 9,281 victim surveys had information about an investigation. In 6,696 (72%) cases, an investigation of the allegation was carried out. Of these, 4,570 (80%) were substantiated; 1,028 (18%) were unsubstantiated; 83 (1.5%) were found to be false. In 56 cases, priests were reported to deny the allegations.
    * More than 10 percent of these allegations were characterized as not substantiated. (This does not mean that the allegation was false; it means only that the diocese or order could not determine whether the alleged abuse actually took place.)
    * For approximately 20 percent of the allegations, the priest was deceased or inactive at the time of the receipt of the allegation and typically no investigation was conducted in these circumstances.
    * In 38.4% of allegations, the abuse is alleged to have occurred within a single year, in 21.8% the alleged abuse lasted more than a year but less than 2 years, in 28% between 2 and 4 years, in 10.2% between 5 and 9 years and, in under 1%, 10 or more years.

    Many of the reported acts of sexual abuse involved fondling or unspecified abuse. There was also a large number of allegations of more grave abuse, including acts of oral sex and intercourse. Detailed information on the nature of the abuse was not reported for 26.6% of the reported allegations. 27.3% of the allegations involved the cleric performing oral sex on the victim. 25.1% of the allegations involved penile penetration or attempted penetration.

    Although there were reported acts of sexual abuse of minors in every year, the incidence of reported abuse increased by several orders of magnitude in the 1960s and 1970s. There was, for example, a more than sixfold increase in the number of reported acts of abuse of males aged 11 to 17 between the 1950s and the 1970s. After peaking in the 1970s, the number of incidents decreased through the 1980s and 1990s even more sharply than the incidence rate had increased in the 1960s and 1970s.

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    Ещё раз скажу, что есть многие "невидимые" вещи, которые тем не менее классифицируются (психологами) как абьюз (уж извините сложно перевести). Типичный пример: детей заставляют учить Библию (Тору/Коран), причём фокус делается на ярких сценах ада, наказаний и т.д.

    Добавлю и стандартную процедуру обрезания (мальчиков и девочек). Она как бы не вреда (даже якобы полезна) но тем не менее.. это религиозная процедура. Ассоциация Американских Педиатров не рекомендует это, а страховки ужо не платют. Не хочу углублятся в орбезание, т.к. про это есть отдельные темы.

    Влом разбирать и перепечатывать, но кому интересно читайте:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_abuse
    http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/daily/social_eom.htm - именно этот источник сомнителен впрочем..

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    только полные долбоебы могут верить в херню, написанную в библии... а долбоебы, они долбоебы во всем, хотя могут быть и милыми людьми.... хотя. волноваться не о чем , количество нерелигиозных людей постоянно увеличивается...
    I am Ripper... Tearer... Slasher... Gouger. I am the Teeth in the Darkness, the Talons in the Night. Mine is Strength... and Lust... and Power! I AM OLEGRED!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlegRed View Post
    количество нерелигиозных людей постоянно увеличивается...
    Насмешил.

    Количество религиозных людей постоянно увеличивается, как абсолютно, так и относительно.

    Какая у нас самая быстрорастущая религия? Подсказка: у них обычно 5+ детей в семье.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Поручик View Post
    Насмешил.

    Количество религиозных людей постоянно увеличивается, как абсолютно, так и относительно.

    Какая у нас самая быстрорастущая религия? Подсказка: у них обычно 5+ детей в семье.
    похер, дело не в количестве... они дохнут тоже быстро в секторе газа... религии все меньше становится на всех уровнях... государственном, образовательном и проч. ... и это радует ... не люблю идиотов...
    I am Ripper... Tearer... Slasher... Gouger. I am the Teeth in the Darkness, the Talons in the Night. Mine is Strength... and Lust... and Power! I AM OLEGRED!!!!!

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    Формально в развитых странах процент атеистов растёт. В недоразвитых странах да - есть особо плодоносящие религии которые опускают женщину до уровня кур-несушек сидящих в бройлерах (т.е. гаремах).
    Я уже упоминал афганский фильм "Осама" про это дело. Рекомендую к простомтру, но будете плакать.
    P.S. OlegRed - понимаю и разделяю твои эмоции. Меня верующие в своё время так достали..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Поручик View Post
    Насмешил.

    Количество религиозных людей постоянно увеличивается, как абсолютно, так и относительно.

    Какая у нас самая быстрорастущая религия? Подсказка: у них обычно 5+ детей в семье.
    мармоны ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallucinogen View Post
    мармоны ?
    Кстати, мормоны, вроде, не достают никого.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Поручик View Post
    Кстати, мормоны, вроде, не достают никого.
    пока в белых рубашечках на велосипеды не сядут
    а так... только др.дружку, да детей сексуально домогаются.. для окружающих практически не опасны

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    +1
    в сша мормоны.. по миру другая картина. увы муслики, причём за счёт африки..
    но тут статистика странная - это именно мормоны глаголют, что они самые быстрорастущие.. а общая статистикак говорит, что атеисты. получается, что мормоны медленнее всего исчезают.

    мормоны не достают? :grum: скажи спасибо мериканским правам на личную жизнь, иначе бы они тебя достали по самые помидоры.

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