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    Quote Originally Posted by ИнкЖирик View Post
    ДАРОМ! Я $395.

    Кстати, у вас насколько реально получить нан резидент кярипермит? Только в теории или комуто дают? Ени айдия?
    В близи от Бостона тяжело, практически нереально если нет серьёзного кешевого или подверженного частым ограблениям бизнеса (криминальный адвокат, газ стейшен, ювелирка и т.п.). Но в 50 милях от - намного легче но тоже с заморочками. Зато в Нью Хемпшире - пришёл с драйв. лайсензом и вперёд, бери не хочу. В принципе многие "оружейники" таки переселяюца в НХ тем более что от границы то самого Бостона всего 35-40 миль и без трафика 30-40 мин езды что по времени наверно меньше чем у вас от Квинса до Стейтен Айленда.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Инквизитор View Post
    Прочитал, фаиринг рендж в квинсе, берут $250 в год.
    Barack Obama on his girls: "I have men with guns surrounding them at all times, which I'm perfectly happy with..." (c) Why can he protect his family with guns and I can't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zgorynych View Post
    В близи от Бостона тяжело, практически нереально если нет серьёзного кешевого или подверженного частым ограблениям бизнеса (криминальный адвокат, газ стейшен, ювелирка и т.п.). Но в 50 милях от - намного легче но тоже с заморочками. Зато в Нью Хемпшире - пришёл с драйв. лайсензом и вперёд, бери не хочу. В принципе многие "оружейники" таки переселяюца в НХ тем более что от границы то самого Бостона всего 35-40 миль и без трафика 30-40 мин езды что по времени наверно меньше чем у вас от Квинса до Стейтен Айленда.
    Я не про резидент пермит, я про НОН резидент пермит. Я думаю заполнять документы или нет.
    Barack Obama on his girls: "I have men with guns surrounding them at all times, which I'm perfectly happy with..." (c) Why can he protect his family with guns and I can't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ИнкЖирик View Post
    Я не про резидент пермит, я про НОН резидент пермит. Я думаю заполнять документы или нет.
    Вот нашёл.

    New Hampshire
    New Hampshire does not require a license for Open Carry, but carry in a motor vehicle or otherwise concealed does require a license. Note that the NH license is issued for carry of a "pistol or revolver," and is not a license to carry "weapons" as exists in some other states. The NH license is issued by the local police dept at a cost of $10 for residents, and by the NH State Police at a cost of $20 for non-residents. Turn around time is generally 1 – 2 weeks, with 14 days being the maximum time allowed by law.

    Vermont
    Vermont has very few gun control laws. Gun dealers are required to keep a record of all handgun sales. It is illegal to carry a gun on school property or in a courthouse. State law preempts local governments from regulating the possession, ownership, transfer, carrying, registration or licensing of firearms.[210]
    The term "Vermont Carry" is used by gun rights advocates to refer to allowing citizens to carry a firearm concealed or openly without any sort of permit requirement. Vermont law does not distinguish between residents and non-residents of the state; both have the same right to carry while in Vermont.
    The Vermont constitution of 1793, based partly on the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, guarantees certain freedoms and rights to the citizens: "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State — and as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power."[211]

    Maine
    Maine is a "shall issue" state for concealed carry. The issuing authority is the local government or local police, or the state police. A permit to carry a concealed firearm shall be issued within 30 days to a qualified applicant who has been a Maine resident for at least five years, or within 60 days to a nonresident or a resident for less than five years. The permit is valid for four years. A permit to carry a concealed firearm is required when transporting a loaded firearm, either concealed or plainly visible, in a vehicle. A permit is not required for open carry.[108][109][110][111]
    Maine does not currently honor concealed carry permits from other states. In 2007, the state enacted L.D. 148, directing the Department of Public Safety and the Attorney General to review other states' concealed weapon reciprocity agreements and actively seek reciprocity where appropriate.[112]
    Maine has state preemption of firearms laws. No political subdivision of the state may adopt any law regulating firearms or ammunition, except for regulating the discharge of firearms.[113]
    A municipality may not sue a firearm or ammunition manufacturer for damages relating to the lawful design, manufacture, marketing or sale of firearms or ammunition. A municipality may bring legal action for breach of contract or warranty.[114]
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    Quote Originally Posted by zgorynych View Post
    В Нью Хемпшире никаких (заранее) пермитов нет. Пришёл, показал АйДи, подождал федеральный срок, купил. Как там работает для не жителей штата не знаю.
    Просто работает. ПО федеральному закону хяндганы можно покупать только в штате резидентом которого ты являешся :-) НЕ один другой штат тебе не резиденту не продаст хяндгун (легально) только с шипингом к ФФЛ твоего штата.
    Barack Obama on his girls: "I have men with guns surrounding them at all times, which I'm perfectly happy with..." (c) Why can he protect his family with guns and I can't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zgorynych View Post
    Вот нашёл.

    Нещ Хампшире
    Нещ Хампшире доес нот реэуире а лиценсе фор Опен Царры, бут царры ин а мотор вехицле ор отхерщисе цонцеалед доес реэуире а лиценсе. Ноте тхат тхе НХ лиценсе ис иссуед фор царры оф а "пистол ор револвер," анд ис нот а лиценсе то царры "щеапонс" ас ехистс ин соме отхер статес. Тхе НХ лиценсе ис иссуед бы тхе лоцал полице депт ат а цост оф $10 фор ресидентс, анд бы тхе НХ Стате Полице ат а цост оф $20 фор нон-ресидентс. Турн ароунд тиме ис генераллы 1 – 2 щеекс, щитх 14 даыс беинг тхе махимум тиме аллощед бы лащ.
    Я ето знаю, у меня есть нью хямшир. Я про масачуисетс спрашивал.
    Barack Obama on his girls: "I have men with guns surrounding them at all times, which I'm perfectly happy with..." (c) Why can he protect his family with guns and I can't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ИнкЖирик View Post
    Я ето знаю, у меня есть нью хямшир. Я про масачуисетс спрашивал.
    Массачусетс даёт "транспортировочный пермит" вроде.

    Massachusetts
    Massachusetts Law requires firearm owners to be licensed through their local Police Department or the Massachusetts State Police if no local licensing authority is available. A license is required by state law for buying firearms and ammunition. An applicant must have passed a State approved firearm safety course before applying for a license.

    All applications, interviews, fees, and fingerprinting are done at the local Police Department then sent electronically to the Massachusetts Criminal History Board for the mandatory background checks, and processing. All approved applicants will receive their license from the issuing Police Department. All licensing information is stored by the Criminal History Board. Non residents who are planning on carrying in the state must apply for a temporary LTC through the State Police before their travel.
    There are four different types of Firearm licenses issued in the state. The most restrictive license, the Firearm Identification License (FID), only allows the ownership of long arms (rifles or shotguns) that hold 10 rounds or less in their magazines. The Class B License To Carry (LTC) allows the ownership of handguns which hold 10 rounds or less or long arms with any capacity magazine. The Class A LTC allows the ownership of any capacity handgun, or longarm and the ability to carry concealed. Licenses are valid for 6 years.

    The issuing authority official may restrict the Class A LTC as he wishes, such as target and hunting only, which may effect the authorization of an individual to carry concealed.

    The final license is only issued for "machine guns."

    A license to possess or carry a machine gun may be issued only to a firearm instructor certified by the Criminal Justice Training Council for the sole purpose of firearm instruction to police personnel, or to a bona fide collector of firearms upon application or renewal of such license.

    A "bona fide collector of firearms," for the purpose of issuance of a machine gun license, shall be defined as an individual who acquires firearms for such lawful purposes as historical significance, display, research, lecturing, demonstration, test firing, investment or other like purpose.

    For the purpose of issuance of a machine gun license, the acquisition of firearms for sporting use or for use as an offensive or defensive weapon shall not qualify an applicant as a bona fide collector of firearms.

    All private sales are required to be registered through an FA-10 form with the Criminal History Board, Firearm Records division. The state has an assault weapons ban similar to the expired Federal ban. Massachusetts is a "may issue" state and all classes of LTCs, are issued in a highly discretionary manner.

    FIDs are "Shall issue", except if the applicant fails a background check. Massachusetts law does not recognize the Firearm Owners Protection Act. State law requires all firearms to be stored ) in a locked container, or with a child safe trigger lock. If in a vehicle, firearm must be carried in the trunk of the vehicle in a locked container. Unless the licensee has a Class A unrestricted license, in which case the firearm must be under his direct control. Any firearms that are found to be unsecured may be confiscated by law enforcement officers and license may be revoked. In the event a license is revoked for any reason, law enforcement will confiscate all weapons and store for 1 year before destroying them unless the revoked licensee transfers ownership to a properly licensed party who then claims the firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zgorynych View Post
    Массачусетс даёт "транспортировочный пермит" вроде.

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    ЙЕто всё в теории. Я на последней лекции НРА сидел, там говорилои что за последнии пол года в МАсачусете озверели лайсенсинг лодыри, хоть закон есть на нан резидент пермиты, но они практически никому не дают.
    Barack Obama on his girls: "I have men with guns surrounding them at all times, which I'm perfectly happy with..." (c) Why can he protect his family with guns and I can't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ИнкЖирик View Post
    ЙЕто всё в теории. Я на последней лекции НРА сидел, там говорилои что за последнии пол года в МАсачусете озверели лайсенсинг лодыри, хоть закон есть на нан резидент пермиты, но они практически никому не дают.
    Наверно говорили про Бостон. В глубинке МА всё не так. Там намного легче получить ЛТК. У меня много знакомых которым в Бостоне и окресностям отказывали а переехали за 50 миль - без проблем. Там менталитет у Чифоф полиции другой. И политика совсем другая. Типа как у вас Манхетен и Апстейт. ;) Но для нон-резидента ЛТК решает Штатная Полиция. А это звери ещё те. Гестапо отдыхает. :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by zgorynych View Post
    Наверно говорили про Бостон. В глубинке МА всё не так. Там намного легче получить ЛТК. У меня много знакомых которым в Бостоне и окресностям отказывали а переехали за 50 миль - без проблем. Там менталитет у Чифоф полиции другой. И политика совсем другая. Типа как у вас Манхетен и Апстейт. ;) Но для нон-резидента ЛТК решает Штатная Полиция. А это звери ещё те. Гестапо отдыхает. :(
    нан резиденты могут получить только в одном централномофисе.
    Barack Obama on his girls: "I have men with guns surrounding them at all times, which I'm perfectly happy with..." (c) Why can he protect his family with guns and I can't?

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