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    ну вот, допустим из свеженького.

    Brian Whitmore

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    Posted January 26, 2009 | 03:15 PM (EST)

    A Creeping Police State or Looming Anarchy

    They're ratcheting up the machinery of repression! A crackdown is obviously just around the corner.

    The elite is mired in clan warfare and the economy is collapsing! We're clearly headed for chaos and instability.

    Recent commentary on Russia has tacked back-and-forth between these two apparently contradictory narratives -- the creeping police state vs. the looming anarchy.

    Signs that the authoritarian system Vladimir Putin and his team built over the past decade is about to get even tougher are not hard to see.

    A so-called judicial reform curtailing jury trials and broadening the definition of treason will make it much easier for the authorities to criminalize dissent. The rushed effort to extend the presidential term from four to six years is clearly designed to facilitate Putin's return to the Kremlin and keep his team of KGB veterans in power indefinitely. Crude nationalism and nasty xenophobia has been the norm, reaching new heights with Russia's war with Georgia in August.

    But there is also compelling evidence that Putin's vaunted power vertical is starting to go wobbly.

    Protests in Vladivostok and other cities over a deeply unpopular hike in auto-import tariffs have severely spooked the elite. A controversial military reform will put hundreds of thousands of officers out of work, creating a potential source of instability. Regional leaders like Tatarstan's Mintimer Shaimiev are becoming less shy about defying the Kremlin.

    And there are fresh signs of tension within the ruling diarchy of Putin and President Dmitry Medvedev. According to a recent article in the weekly Novoye Vremya, Russia's titular head of state and its de facto ruler are at odds about how to deal with the mounting economic crisis:

    The president met with a group of experts on December 26 and they presented him with a picture of impending economic catastrophe. The experts explained that the disaster was inevitable even if the price of Urals crude remained at $30 per barrel, the Central Bank permitted devaluation of the ruble, and the government kept its promises of financial aid to a select group 295 companies. Medvedev was so impressed that he immediately classified the information and had it sent to the premier. Putin, however found the president's initiative distasteful. People in the know say Putin interpreted Medvedev's meeting as an attempt to take anti-crisis management out of his hands. Government insiders claim that Putin by and large has no use for expert recommendations.

    Citing unidentified "insider" sources, Novoye vremya reports that Medvedev's allies in the State Duma are trying to water down pending legislation expanding the definition of treason and espionage. Putin favors the changes, but Medvedev is trying to "make it as mild as possible."

    Meanwhile, veteran Kremlin watcher Yevgeny Volk writes on his blog that Russia's business community is becoming increasingly disillusioned with Putin's government:

    Thus far, the Russian government's feverish moves to combat the economic downturn have done little to improve the economy. The emergence of the list of 295 strategic enterprises the government is bailing out has produced serious tension within Russia's business community. The enterprises not privileged to join the list are seeking to have a place at the trough. The lucky privileged ones are not completely happy with the state of affairs, though. The point at issue is that in return for the bailout the government requires corporations to fully disclose their business profiles. This makes companies highly vulnerable, what with acute competition and widespread corruption. The government uses the information the companies provide as business manipulation and control levers. According to the analysis of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs, it works out that the government bailout is exacerbating stockholders' plight rather than improving it.

    So what is happening here?

    It seems the system Putin built is running into the same brick wall today that the Soviet Union hit in the mid-1980s. In both cases, an economy dangerously dependent on commodities prices crashed when world energy prices tanked.

    And what happens next is anybody's guess.

    In the 1980s, the main debate within the Soviet elite was between those who wanted to address the crisis by imposing tighter discipline and those who favored loosening up the system.

    Yury Andropov briefly tried the former -- seeking to modernize the Soviet economy while at the same time preserving an authoritarian political system in which the KGB would have a leading role -- but he died after serving as Soviet leader for just 15 months.

    Mikhail Gorbachev, of course, then tried the latter -- attempting a simultaneous political and economic liberalization -- precipitating the break-up of the Soviet Union.

    Putin and his closest allies revered Andropov (most of them joined the KGB in the mid-1970s when he ran the spy agency) and tried to establish a new version of his "authoritarian modernization" over the past decade. It all looked successful when oil prices were soaring. But now, the lack of diversification in Russia's economy is exposing Putin's economic miracle as a mirage.

    But history isn't exactly repeating itself (it never does). Unlike in the 1980s, there is nobody inside the elite with the clout and political will to pick up the reform mantle and seize the moment. At least not yet. Despite his recent friskiness, Medvedev doesn't appear to fit the bill.

    So for the time being at least, the choice appears to be one between Putin's teetering authoritarianism and chaos. And as long as that is the choice, most Russians will choose the former.
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    Я привел в пример эту статью, потому-что она состои из двух частей и очень наглядно показывает стиль написания подобных статей.
    Где нибудь про Россию могут написать так?

    Однако грядущая рецессия может способствовать расстановке приоритетов. 'Очень трудно добиться согласия на проведение реформ, когда экономический рост составляет 10 процентов в год, - говорит Андрюс Кубилюс (Andrius Kubilius), новый премьер-министр Литвы. - Нам действительно представился шанс провести реформы, в которых мы действительно нуждаемся'
    или так?
    Прибалтийские компании, пережившие уже две рецессии, спокойны и уверены в том, что выдержат еще одну. 'Мы умеем выживать, - говорит Норман Бергс (Norman Bergs), глава латвийской компании SAF, являющейся нишевым игроком на рынке микроволнового радиооборудования. - Мы пережили 50 лет советской оккупации, поэтому можем пережить и нынешние потрясения'.
    Можно писать только так
    Кремль в этих условиях готовится к негативной реакции общества. По словам аналитика Бориса Дубина из независимого аналитического "Левада-Центра", от 15 до 20 процентов населения уже ощутило на себе удары кризиса. Это увольнения, задолженности по зарплате и ее сокращения, а также возросшие трудности в поиске новой работы. А продолжающийся отток капитала может еще больше усугубить положение. "Сочетание девальвации рубля и сокращений рабочих мест - смесь очень взрывоопасная", - говорит он
    или так
    Проблемы в экономике разрушают ту атмосферу непобедимости, которую создавал и в которой действовал Путин, придя в 2000 году к власти. Во время последнего общенационального прямого эфира премьер-министр отошел от традиции и ни разу не пошутил. Он выглядел напряженным, утверждая, что его правительство в состоянии правильно расходовать деньги во время кризиса.
    или так?
    Ему также приходится иметь дело с растущим недовольством в обществе. В этом месяце тысячи россиян провели по всей стране демонстрации протеста против действий правительства по урегулированию кризиса. Только в ноябре 400000 россиян потеряли работу. Около 2 процентов работающих не получают вовремя зарплату. Поэтому напряженность в стране будет, скорее всего, только нарастать.
    может так?
    И хотя на сей раз обесценивание рубля было бы гораздо менее серьезным в сравнении с катастрофой августа 1998 года, когда рубль буквально за день потерял 70 процентов своей стоимости, а сбережения россиян просто исчезли, слово "девальвация" несет на себе политическое клеймо позора и может посеять панику. Валюта в России - как и все остальное - должна находиться под жестким контролем.
    Я не понимаю, что еще доказывать? Или Вы хотите, что бы я нашел статью где прямо пишут - "Мы журналисты, испытываем радость", "восторг" и "надежды на массовые бунты" в России"? Согласен, такое найти трудно

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdams View Post
    Я привел в пример эту статью, потому-что она состои из двух частей и очень наглядно показывает стиль написания подобных статей.
    Где нибудь про Россию могут написать так?



    или так?


    Можно писать только так


    или так


    или так?


    может так?


    Я не понимаю, что еще доказывать? Или Вы хотите, что бы я нашел статью где прямо пишут - "Мы журналисты, испытываем радость", "восторг" и "надежды на массовые бунты" в России"? Согласен, такое найти трудно
    Пустой разговор.
    моё мнение - тебе очень хочется, что бы западные СМИ испытывали "радость", "восторг" и "надежды на массовые бунты" в России.
    Так тебе и многим твоим соотечественникам удобнее и привычнее воспринимать экономические статьи, которые не похожи на ваши местные. Впрочем - имеешь право.
    У нас тут один клоун до сих пор не верит в девальвацию, а кризис считает некоторым надуманным явлением, неданным ему в ощущениях .

    Кстати, если бы ты почитал американские СМИ о положении дел в америчке, то ты, с твоей чувствительностью - вообще дубу дал бы.
    Сплошная "радость" с "восторгами" по поводу фиговой экономики.
    И так продoлжается уже год...почти
    цирк с конями

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdams View Post

    Хотя вот, для примера, могу привести статью. Состоящую из двух частей.
    http://www.inosmi.ru/translation/246362.html
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    На ваших иносми.сру ещё и не такое прочитать можно. Ангажированный ресурс, с переводчиками, которые, как говорится "соврут - не дорого возьмут".

    Читайте нормальные иносми и будет вам щщастя ...
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    вот Вашингтон Пост в октябре:

    DYING INSIDE
    Behind the Bluster, Russia Is Collapsing


    By Murray Feshbach
    Sunday, October 5, 2008; Page B03

    The bear is back. That's what all too many Russia-watchers have been saying since Russian troops steamrolled Georgia in August, warning that the country's strongman, Vladimir Putin, was clawing his way back toward superpower status. The new Russia's resurgence has been fueled -- quite literally -- by windfall profits from gas and oil, a big jump in defense spending and the cocky attitude on such display during the mauling of Georgia, its U.S.-backed neighbor to the south. Many now believe that the powerful Russian bear of the Cold War years is coming out of hibernation.

    Not so fast. Predictions that Russia will again become powerful, rich and influential ignore some simply devastating problems at home that block any march to power. Sure, Russia's army could take tiny Georgia. But Putin's military is still in tatters, armed with rusting weaponry and staffed with indifferent recruits. Meanwhile, a declining population is robbing the military of a new generation of soldiers. Russia's economy is almost totally dependent on the price of oil. And, worst of all, it's facing a public health crisis that verges on the catastrophic.

    To be sure, the skylines of Russia's cities are chock-a-block with cranes. Industrial lofts are now the rage in Moscow, Russian tourists crowd far-flung locales from Thailand to the Caribbean, and Russian moguls are snapping up real estate and art in London almost as quickly as their oil-rich counterparts from the Persian Gulf. But behind the shiny surface, Russian society may actually be weaker than it was even during Soviet times. The Kremlin's recent military adventures and tough talk are the bluster of the frail, not the swagger of the strong.
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    While Russia has capitalized impressively on its oil industry, the volatility of the world oil market means that Putin cannot count on a long-term pipeline of cash flowing from high oil prices. A predicted drop of about one-third in the price of a barrel of oil will surely constrain Putin's ability to carry out his ambitious agendas, both foreign and domestic.

    That makes Moscow's announced plan to boost defense spending by close to 26 percent in 2009 -- in order to fully re-arm its military with state-of-the-art weaponry -- a dicey proposition. What the world saw in Georgia was a badly outdated arsenal, one that would take many years to replace -- even assuming the country could afford the $200 billion cost.

    Something even larger is blocking Russia's march. Recent decades, most notably since the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991, have seen an appalling deterioration in the health of the Russian population, anchoring Russia not in the forefront of developed countries but among the most backward of nations.

    This is a tragedy of huge proportions -- but not a particularly surprising one, at least to me. I followed population, health and environmental issues in the Soviet Union for decades, and more recently, I have reported on diseases such as the HIV/AIDS epidemic ravaging the Russian population. I've visited Russia more than 50 times over the years, so I can say from firsthand experience that this national calamity isn't happening suddenly. It's happening inexorably.

    According to U.N. figures, the average life expectancy for a Russian man is 59 years -- putting the country at about 166th place in the world longevity sweepstakes, one notch above Gambia. For women, the picture is somewhat rosier: They can expect to live, on average, 73 years, barely beating out the Moldovans. But there are still some 126 countries where they could expect to live longer. And the gap between expected longevity for men and for women -- 14 years -- is the largest in the developed world.

    So what's killing the Russians? All the usual suspects -- HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, alcoholism, cancer, cardiovascular and circulatory diseases, suicides, smoking, traffic accidents -- but they occur in alarmingly large numbers, and Moscow has neither the resources nor the will to stem the tide. Consider this:

    Three times as many Russians die from heart-related illnesses as do Americans or Europeans, per each 100,000 people.

    Tuberculosis deaths in Russia are about triple the World Health Organization's definition of an epidemic, which is based on a new-case rate of 50 cases per 100,000 people.

    Average alcohol consumption per capita is double the rate the WHO considers dangerous to one's health.

    About 1 million people in Russia have been diagnosed with HIV or AIDS, according to WHO estimates.

    Using mid-year figures, it's estimated that 25 percent more new HIV/AIDS cases will be recorded this year than were logged in 2007.

    And none of this is likely to get better any time soon. Peter Piot, the head of UNAIDS, the U.N. agency created in response to the epidemic, told a press conference this summer that he is "very pessimistic about what is going on in Russia and Eastern Europe . . . where there is the least progress." This should be all the more worrisome because young people are most at risk in Russia. In the United States and Western Europe, 70 percent of those with HIV/AIDS are men over age 30; in Russia, 80 percent of this group are aged 15 to 29. And although injected-drug users represent about 65 percent of Russia's cases, the country has officially rejected methadone as a treatment, even though it would likely reduce the potential for HIV infections that lead to AIDS.

    And then there's tuberculosis -- remember tuberculosis? In the United States, with a population of 303 million, 650 people died of the disease in 2007. In Russia, which has a total of 142 million people, an astonishing 24,000 of them died of tuberculosis in 2007. Can it possibly be coincidental that, according to Gennady Onishchenko, the country's chief public health physician, only 9 percent of Russian TB hospitals meet current hygienic standards, 21 percent lack either hot or cold running water, 11 percent lack a sewer system, and 20 percent have a shortage of TB drugs? Hardly.

    On the other end of the lifeline, the news isn't much better. Russia's birth rate has been declining for more than a decade, and even a recent increase in births will be limited by the fact that the number of women age 20 to 29 (those responsible for two-thirds of all babies) will drop markedly in the next four or five years to mirror the 50 percent drop in the birth rate in the late 1980s and the 1990s. And, sadly, the health of Russia's newborns is quite poor, with about 70 percent of them experiencing complications at birth.

    Last summer, Piot of UNAIDS said that bringing Russia's HIV/AIDS epidemic under control was "a matter of political leadership and of changing the policy." He might just as well have been talking about the much larger public health crisis that threatens this vast country. But the policies seem unlikely to change as the bear lumbers along, driven by disastrously misplaced priorities and the blindingly unrealistic expectations of a resentment-driven political leadership. Moscow remains bent on ignoring the devastating truth: The nation is not just sick but dying.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100301976.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabludatel' View Post
    Пустой разговор.
    моё мнение - тебе очень хочется, что бы западные СМИ испытывали "радость", "восторг" и "надежды на массовые бунты" в России.
    Так тебе и многим твоим соотечественникам удобнее и привычнее воспринимать экономические статьи, которые не похожи на ваши местные. Впрочем - имеешь право.
    У нас тут один клоун до сих пор не верит в девальвацию, а кризис считает некоторым надуманным явлением, неданным ему в ощущениях .

    Кстати, если бы ты почитал американские СМИ о положении дел в америчке, то ты, с твоей чувствительностью - вообще дубу дал бы.
    Сплошная "радость" с "восторгами" по поводу фиговой экономики.
    И так продoлжается уже год...почти
    Я единственное, что хочу, что-бы экономические статьи были экономическими статьями. Мне не надо розовых соплей, но полную чернуху тоже неприемлю.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Птиц View Post
    вот Вашингтон Пост в октябре:


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100301976.html
    веселенько так - а главное, сколько симпатии :kos:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Птиц View Post
    вот Вашингтон Пост в октябре:


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100301976.html
    And then there's tuberculosis -- remember tuberculosis? In the United States, with a population of 303 million, 650 people died of the disease in 2007. In Russia, which has a total of 142 million people, an astonishing 24,000 of them died of tuberculosis in 2007. Can it possibly be coincidental that, according to Gennady Onishchenko, the country's chief public health physician, only 9 percent of Russian TB hospitals meet current hygienic standards, 21 percent lack either hot or cold running water, 11 percent lack a sewer system, and 20 percent have a shortage of TB drugs? Hardly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by справочник View Post
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    На ваших иносми.сру ещё и не такое прочитать можно. Ангажированный ресурс, с переводчиками, которые, как говорится "соврут - не дорого возьмут".

    Читайте нормальные иносми и будет вам щщастя ...
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    Global crunch strains Russian economy
    Stock trading halted; Kremlin’s moves not raising confidence


    By Alex Rodriguez
    October 09, 2008

    MOSCOW—Battered by the global sell-off, the economy Vladimir Putin built has begun to show its chinks. Russian stock markets have nose-dived, a construction boom has ground to a halt and energy titans like Gazprom and Lukoil are urging the Kremlin to lend a hand.

    Like other emerging economies, Russia is finding itself far from immune to the turmoil afflicting U.S. and European markets. And with oil prices continuing to drop, the country’s overdependence on energy as the engine of its economy only makes matters worse, analysts say.

    After a half-hour of trading Wednesday, steep drops in Russian stocks prompted authorities to shut down the country’s stock exchanges, the dollar-based Russian Trading System and the ruble-based Moscow Interbank Currency Exchange until Friday.

    Russian authorities have suspended trading on the country’s stock markets at least 10 times in the last three weeks. Since May, the Russian Trading System has plunged more than 65 percent.

    Attempts by the Kremlin to intervene have yet to ratchet up investor confidence. Earlier this week, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev decided to pump $36 billion into the country’s ailing banks on top of the $170 billion in loans and tax breaks he had previously pledged to buoy the financial sector.

    State-owned Gazprom, Russian oil majors Rosneft and Lukoil, and the Russian-British joint venture TNK-BP sought governmental help this week amid the global credit crisis, asking the Kremlin for loans to refinance debt and push ahead with major investments.

    Gazprom, a $125 billion company that holds a quarter of the world’s natural gas reserves, has seen its share price drop by two-thirds since May.

    Steady declines in oil prices have exposed the Russian economy’s heavy reliance on oil and other commodities as a vulnerability the Kremlin needs to address, analysts say. Oil prices have dropped from a high of $147 a barrel in July to less than $90.

    During Putin’s eight years as president, the Russian leader returned control of much of the country’s energy sector to the state, while failing to wean the Russian economy off of its dependence on oil and natural gas export revenue.

    While the worldwide credit crisis has played a critical role in the plight of Russia’s stock markets, declining oil prices have worsened their plunge, experts say.

    “Investors assume that the higher the oil price the brighter the outlook for Russian markets,” said Vladimir Rozhankovsky, an analyst with Center-Invest Securities, a Moscow investment bank. “President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin have called for transforming Russia’s economy into a high-tech economy, but not a lot has been done to make that shift.”

    Experts say Russia’s biggest worry right now is its banking sector, which so far has yet to respond to the Kremlin’s injections of cash.

    Banks’ reluctance to lend is taking its toll on the country’s economy, particularly on construction and real estate.

    Construction companies that have been transforming Moscow’s skyline are putting on hold new projects, including a plan to build Europe’s tallest skyscraper on the banks of the Moscow River.

    “Very little is happening in the construction sector right now,” Rozhankovsky said. “Builders are slowing down because they’re worried about paying back loans. And predictions are that demand for new apartments is going to slow down.”

    Analysts say the impact of the Kremlin’s bailout of Russian banks may be limited because it targets the country’s largest financial institutions but leaves out smaller banks equally desperate for financial help. Much of the aid Medvedev announced this week would be channeled to Russia’s two largest state-controlled banks, Sberbank and VTB.

    “So far, this assistance has yet to restore any confidence,” said Nikolai Kasheyev, an analyst at Moscow’s MDM Bank. “Russia has 1,300 banks, and the majority are local and regional banks that have no access to this liquidity.”
    http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2...is-russiaoct09

    тож ничо так, аптимистичьна :kos:

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