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    я вчера прочитала от корки до корки описание в [WJ].... интерсно, ну как такое могло долго продолжаться? и он что один все этото прокурчивал? нужно же было все документацию делать....

    какие огромнейшие суммы, и какой сколько людей пострадало.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_L._Madoff
    Bernard Lawrence Madoff (born April 29, 1938) is an American businessman and former Chairman of the Nasdaq stock market. He started the Wall Street firm Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC in 1960 and was its chairman until December 11, 2008, when he was arrested and charged with securities fraud.

    Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities, which is in the process of liquidation, was one of the top market maker businesses on Wall Street, often functioning as a "third-market" provider that bypassed "specialist" firms and directly executed orders over-the-counter from retail brokers.[1] The firm also encompassed an investment management and advisory division that is now the focus of the fraud investigation.[2]

    On December 11, 2008, Federal Bureau of Investigation agents arrested Madoff on a tip-off from his sons, Andrew and Mark, and charged him with one count of securities fraud. On the day prior to his arrest, Madoff told his senior executives at the firm that the management and advisory segment of the business was "basically, a giant Ponzi scheme."[3] Five days after his arrest, Madoff's assets and those of the firm were frozen and a receiver was appointed to handle the case.[4] Madoff's alleged fraud may be valued at a loss of up to a $50 billion in cash and securities.[2][5] Banks from Spain, France, Switzerland, Italy, the Netherlands and other countries have announced that they have potentially lost billions in U.S. dollars as a result.[6][7][8] To date, it is the largest investor fraud ever attributed to a single individual.[9]

    Madoff has long been a prominent businessman and philanthropist,[10][11] and, as a result, the freeze of his and his firm's assets significantly affected businesses around the world and a number of charities, some of which had to close as a consequence of the fraud.[10][12][13]

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    http://www.madoff.com/
    On December 15, 2008, the Honorable Louis L. Stanton, a Federal Judge in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, appointed Irving Picard as Trustee for the liquidation of Bernard L. Madoff Investments Securities LLC (“BMIS”) pursuant to the Securities Investor Protection Act (“SIPA”) as set forth in the attached order. LINK
    Mr. Picard supersedes Lee S. Richards, the previously appointed Receiver for BMIS and all claims by customers of BMIS will be processed by Mr. Picard as SIPA Trustee. Customers and claimants should refer to the website of the Securities Investor Protection Corporation for information about the processing of claims. SIPC.ORG

    Mr. Richards continues to serve as Receiver for Madoff Securities International Ltd. pursuant to the attached order. LINK

    The Trustee Irving Picard has engaged Lazard Frères & Co. LLC to assist in the sale of the trading operations of Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC.

    Should you have further questions, please contact the Trustee at the following

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakomka View Post
    я вчера прочитала от корки до корки описание в [WJ].... интерсно, ну как такое могло долго продолжаться? и он что один все этото прокурчивал? нужно же было все документацию делать....

    какие огромнейшие суммы, и какой сколько людей пострадало.
    конечно не один. там и сыновья были замешаны, ещё как. они же его в федс и здали.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fursetka View Post
    конечно не один. там и сыновья были замешаны, ещё как. они же его в федс и здали.
    ты понимаешь сколько документации? все остальные были слепые и глухие? а вокруг? столько людей и фондов с ними работало!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fursetka View Post
    конечно не один. там и сыновья были замешаны, ещё как. они же его в федс и здали.
    Если сами замешаны, то зачем сдавать папу?
    Что-бы всем больше дали? :confused:
    Павлики морозовы на новый лад.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kotomka View Post
    Если сами замешаны, то зачем сдавать папу?
    Что-бы всем больше дали? :цонфусед:
    Павлики морозовы на новый лад.
    Может пытались себе более мягкое наказание выторговать - такое бывает. Но отца закладывать...всех деталей не знаю, но я бы не смог...
    Я могу заблуждаться, но я не вру.

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    Im not alone
    NEW YORK – Bernard Madoff's contention that he pulled off one of the biggest financial frauds in history without any help is being met with disbelief by his investors and experts in the securities industry. It normally takes a team of accountants, stock brokers, lawyers and more to operate the kind of multibillion-dollar investment fund that Madoff ran from the 17th floor of his Manhattan headquarters.

    The firm had clients around the globe. Simply generating the detailed financial statements investors got in the mail every month would have been a monumental effort for just one person, observers said, even if those reports were pure fantasy.

    "Someone had to create them. Someone had to create the appearance that there were returns," said attorney Harry Susman, who represents several Madoff investors.

    "The guy was 70 years old. Could he have done it himself? The computer systems would have needed to be extensive. Supposedly, he's selling puts, buying puts, selling calls, buying stocks. Somebody had to sit there and buy stocks. Where are these people?"
    NEW YORK – Bernard Madoff's contention that he pulled off one of the biggest financial frauds in history without any help is being met with disbelief by his investors and experts in the securities industry. It normally takes a team of accountants, stock brokers, lawyers and more to operate the kind of multibillion-dollar investment fund that Madoff ran from the 17th floor of his Manhattan headquarters.

    The firm had clients around the globe. Simply generating the detailed financial statements investors got in the mail every month would have been a monumental effort for just one person, observers said, even if those reports were pure fantasy.

    "Someone had to create them. Someone had to create the appearance that there were returns," said attorney Harry Susman, who represents several Madoff investors.

    "The guy was 70 years old. Could he have done it himself? The computer systems would have needed to be extensive. Supposedly, he's selling puts, buying puts, selling calls, buying stocks. Somebody had to sit there and buy stocks. Where are these people?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fursetka View Post
    конечно не один. там и сыновья были замешаны, ещё как. они же его в федс и здали.
    "сдали", типа. Как "честные" люди. I smell a rat. Наверное, ищут дил, чтобы оставить себе какие–то крохи от 50 миллиардов.

    Этот Мадофф–настоящий хищник. Он знал, что ему доверяют, что он не просто брокер с улицы для своих клиентов, и все равно брал.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kotomka View Post
    Если сами замешаны, то зачем сдавать папу?
    Что-бы всем больше дали? :confused:
    Павлики морозовы на новый лад.

    какие нафег равлики-павлики?

    когда пришло время любить, папа тупо приказал им рысью себя сдать!
    Папе то что? Ему 70 лет уж стукнуло, а чуваков он решил отмазать.
    И это очень правильно, лучше одному присесть, чем всей семьей.

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