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    Quote Originally Posted by FOLEY
    we usually start out with PZA, INH, RIF & Ethambutol (of course vitB6) empirically...and in 2-3 weeks, once sensetivities come back we tailor out a more precise treatment
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    Quote Originally Posted by FOLEY
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    I see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ich ben
    u vas tam delayut bronch washings?
    If there is a strong suspicion for TB and sputum AFB stain and TB cultures are negative, then you have to do bronch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donat
    If there is a strong suspicion for TB and sputum AFB stain and TB cultures are negative, then you have to do bronch.
    deja vu? http://forum.russianamerica.com/f/sh...1&postcount=74
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    Quote Originally Posted by ich ben
    А может если клинически очень похоже на TB (fever, chills, blood stained sputum, loss of weight) и точно известно, что человек был exposed то TB, лучше начать его лечить без invasive tests?

    Таблетки им всем, таблетки
    Anti-TB pills are way too toxic to give them to everybody ;)
    But if, for example, there is a cavitary lesion in the upper lobes strongly suspicious for TB, then you might consider starting treatment without confirmation with all 4 drugs (Foley mentioned already) and do further investigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FOLEY
    rekomendacii odinakovye,
    na ekzamenah sprashivayut tozhe samoe ;)
    Hit the nail on the head or hit the sack
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donat
    Anti-TB pills are way too toxic to give them to everybody ;)
    But if, for example, there is a cavitary lesion in the upper lobes strongly suspicious for TB, then you might consider starting treatment without confirmation with all 4 drugs (Foley mentioned already) and do further investigation.
    Thanks guys, you are very educational I did say that we should start therapy ONLY if there is a strong suspicion :evillaugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by ich ben
    Thanks guys, you are very educational I did say that we should start therapy ONLY if there is a strong suspicion :evillaugh
    I know you are too :34:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donat
    rekomendacii odinakovye,
    na ekzamenah sprashivayut tozhe samoe ;)
    на экзаменах тоже...но и в жизни ведь так делаем.
    Бутылка кефира...пол батона! (с) ;)

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