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    ну что же, репы уже добавили в президентскую гонку [sex], осталось только [drugs and rock-n-roll]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elric
    ну что же, репы уже добавили в президентскую гонку [sex], осталось только [drugs and rock-n-roll]
    I'm sure McCain in on drugs..:angel:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Акватрель
    I'm sure McCain in on drugs..:angel:
    All America is on drugs! Half is on legal, half is on illegal :lol2:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marconi
    All America is on drugs! Half is on legal, half is on illegal :lol2:
    мормоны вроде ведут чистый образ жизни. Даже кофе не пьют... :D
    in the next life i'll try harder

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    Quote Originally Posted by madV
    мормоны вроде ведут чистый образ жизни. Даже кофе не пьют... :D
    Нельзя не вспомнить.. "Религия..опиум для народа..";) :D

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    Социализм побеждает в Америке без единого выстрела. И вот "откуда ноги растут" у неоконов. :mad:

    The neoconservative desire to spread democracy abroad has been likened to the Trotskyist theory of permanent revolution. Lind argues that the neoconservatives are influenced by the thought of former Trotskyists such as James Burnham and Max Shachtman, who argued that "the United States and similar societies are dominated by a decadent, postbourgeois 'new class.'" He sees the neoconservative concept of "global democratic revolution" as deriving from the Trotskyist Fourth International's "vision of permanent revolution." He also points to what he sees as the Marxist origin of "the economic determinist idea that liberal democracy is an epiphenomenon of capitalism," which he describes as "Marxism with entrepreneurs substituted for proletarians as the heroic subjects of history." However, few leading neoconservatives cite James Burnham as a major influence.

    New" conservatives initially approached this view from the political left. The forerunners of neoconservatism were often liberals or socialists who strongly supported the Allied cause in World War II, and who were influenced by the Great Depression-era ideas of the New Deal, trade unionism, and Trotskyism, particularly those who followed the political ideas of Max Shachtman. A number of future neoconservatives, such as Jeane Kirkpatrick, were Shachtmanites in their youth; some were later involved with Social Democrats USA.[citation needed]

    Some of the mid-20th century New York Intellectuals were forebears of neoconservatism. The most notable was literary critic Lionel Trilling, who wrote, "In the United States at this time liberalism is not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition." It was this liberal vital center, a term coined by the historian and liberal theorist Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., that the neoconservatives would see as threatened by New Left extremism. But the majority of vital center liberals remained affiliated with the Democratic Party, retained left-of-center viewpoints, and opposed Republican politicians such as Richard Nixon who first attracted neoconservative support.[citation needed]

    Initially, the neoconservatives were less concerned with foreign policy than with domestic policy. Irving Kristol's journal, The Public Interest, focused on ways that government planning in the liberal state had produced unintended harmful consequences. Norman Podhoretz's magazine Commentary, formerly a journal of the liberal left, had more of a cultural focus, criticizing excesses in the movements for black equality and women's rights, and in the academic left. Through the 1950s and early 1960s the future neoconservatives had been socialists or liberals strongly supportive of the American Civil Rights Movement, integration, and Martin Luther King, Jr..[12][13]

    The neoconservatives, arising from the anti-Stalinist left of the 1950s, opposed the anti-capitalism of the New Left of the 1960s. They broke from the liberal consensus of the early post-World War II years in foreign policy, and opposed Détente with the Soviet Union in the late 1960s and 1970s
    . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocons

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    Quote Originally Posted by zvizda
    Нельзя не вспомнить.. "Религия..опиум для народа..";) :Д
    Не "для народа" а просто "народа". ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by madV
    мормоны вроде ведут чистый образ жизни. Даже кофе не пьют... :Д
    Хороший брэйнвошинг будет покрепче любой наркоты. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by madV
    мормоны вроде ведут чистый образ жизни. Даже кофе не пьют... :D
    А черт их знает, прозэк, думаю тоже пьют.
    А ты мормон/ка?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zgorynych
    Хороший брэйнвошинг будет покрепче любой наркоты. ;)
    :za: :34:
    A cynic is one who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
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