Срочно, нужен совет юриста!

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Иногда даже обвинения не нужно.:smoke:

Ну, в приделах Америки, это не более чем на 24-48 часов, в зависимости от законов штатах. Впрочем, и это нелегко для людей, которые не могут провести больше 3х часов без caffe latte. 8)

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Иногда даже обвинения не нужно.:smoke:

Ну, в приделах Америки, это не более чем на 2ч-ч8 часов, в зависимости от законов штатах.

Вам два слова и вопрос:
Jose Padilla
Военная база в Гвантаномо не является территорией США?

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Jose Padilla

You'd feel better if he was held without bail? Думаю что на военной базе ему безопаснее, чем в тюрьме; это одна из двух причин по которой его там держат. Но ты за Падилью не волнуйся -- на это есть habeas corpus.

Военная база в Гвантаномо не является территорией США?

Не-а.

[BOP B 3AKOHE]

You'd feel better if he was held without bail?

I am not a constitutional scholar, but, yes, it would nave made me feel better.

Думаю что на военной базе ему безопаснее, чем в тюрьме; это одна из двух причин по которой его там держат.

Nonsense.
Safe from what exactly? Being tortured to death?

Но ты за Падилью не волнуйся -- на это есть habeas corpus.

Похоже, что в его случае как раз нету.

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I am not a constitutional scholar, but, yes, it would nave made me feel better.

I'm afraid I am not scholarly enough to lend so much importance to distinctions which have no practical significance.

Safe from what exactly? Being tortured to death?

Sure. It's far more likely to happen in jail than on a military base. And by the way, when exactly was JP tortured to death?

Похоже, что в его случае как раз нету.

I can't believe the journalists are this bored.

[BOP B 3AKOHE]

Sure. It's far more likely to happen in jail than on a military base. And by the way, when exactly was JP tortured to death?

Not in a solitary confinement.

On 21 May 2004, the Department of Defense revealed that the Army Criminal Investigation Command was currently conducting 33 investigations of death in custody cases, 30 of which involved deaths inside facilities.(612) Nine of these 30 cases were the subject of ongoing military investigations of military personnel. Eight of these nine cases involve deaths "classified by medical authorities as homicides, which involve suspected assaults of detainees either before or during interrogation sessions that may have led to the detainee’s death".(613) Of these nine cases, three were in Afghanistan and six in Iraq (including two in Abu Ghraib). A 10th case categorized as a homicide had been closed by the military and "turned over to another government agency".

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index...amp;of=ENG-USA

[BOP B 3AKOHE]

I'm afraid I am not scholarly enough to lend so much importance to distinctions which have no practical significance.

Due process has no practical significance?

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Due process has no practical significance?

The distinction between confinement in one prison and confinement in another has no practical significance. As for due process, it has practical significance only when it is not being used as a fifty-cent buzzword. The way the majority of the public and the media is using the word "due process" -- I'd say that's right, it has no practical significance. Just like the word "unconstitutional" -- you know the glitzy synonym for "not nice".

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"]On 21 May 2004, the Department of Defense revealed that the Army Criminal Investigation Command was currently conducting 33 investigations of death in custody cases, 30 of which involved deaths inside facilities.(612) Nine of these 30 cases were the subject of ongoing military investigations of military personnel. Eight of these nine cases involve deaths "classified by medical authorities as homicides, which involve suspected assaults of detainees either before or during interrogation sessions that may have led to the detainee’s death".(613) Of these nine cases, three were in Afghanistan and six in Iraq (including two in Abu Ghraib). A 10th case categorized as a homicide had been closed by the military and "turned over to another government agency".

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index...amp;of=ENG-USA[/quote]

Over how many years? Out of how many detainees? Homocides by personnel or other detainees? And besides -- every death is investigated; the fact that there is an investigation does not mean a crime was committed. How come AI is not mentioning the outcomes of the investigations? Generally, such information is omitted when it is unpalatable to the accuser.

[BOP B 3AKOHE]

The distinction between confinement in one prison and confinement in another has no practical significance. As for due process, it has practical significance only when it is not being used as a fifty-cent buzzword.

Generally speaking, it is true. In the case of Jose Padilla, - and we are still talking about his case, don't we? - the place of detention is used to subvert the due process and, therefore, is not simply significant but critical.
As far as monetary equivalents of basic judicial right are concerned, how much value do you think, the AG puts on the whole Constitution?