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    Quote Originally Posted by Птиц

    Did I call user X. "an idiot"?
    No, the person who answered you called him an idiot. You posed a question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shtirliz
    No, the person who answered you called him an idiot.
    Where? :confused:

    He answered who wrote the rules, and then asked a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Птиц
    Where? :confused:

    He answered who wrote the rules, and then asked a question.
    A - What kind of an idiot wrote these stupid rules?
    B- User X. did.
    That's not defamation.

    B.-Do you think he's an idiot?
    A.-Yes, I most certainly do.
    That's not defamation ither
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shtirliz
    That's not defamation.

    That's not defamation ither
    I did not ask if it was.

    I asked if, in your opinion, I called "user X." an idiot.

    so, what IS defamation, then?

    de·fame
    –verb (used with object), -famed, -fam·ing.
    1. to attack the good name or reputation of, as by uttering or publishing maliciously or falsely anything injurious; slander or libel.
    —Synonyms 1. malign, disparage, discredit, vilify, derogate, revile, denigrate, backbite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Птиц
    I did not ask if it was.

    I asked if, in your opinion, I called "user X." an idiot.

    so, what IS defamation, then?
    Here, i found something that can shed some light:

    If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation. Whether a statement is viewed as an expression of fact or opinion can depend upon context - that is, whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true.
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    Legal elements of the tort of defamation:
    1. Defamatory statement
    2. Of and concerning P
    3. Publication
    4. Damage to P's reputation
    Libel - written
    Libel per se (damages are presumed)
    i. Business or profession
    ii. Criminal offense
    iii. Loathsome disease
    iv. Sexual misconduct
    Slander
    Slander per se

    Defenses of the D:
    1. Truth
    2. Consent
    3. Privilige
    Цинична, эротична, cтервозна и практична. Худею... сладкое не предлагать...в гости не звать, чаем не поить, через клетку не кормить... Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea(c)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shtirliz
    Here, i found something that can shed some light:
    whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true
    my point exactly - the subject of our discussion has no way of knowing for sure, whether or not this or that person is "mentally unstable"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Птиц
    my point exactly - the subject of our discussion has no way of knowing for sure, whether or not this or that person is "mentally unstable"
    'K we are going around in circles. What do you propose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shtirliz
    'K we are going around in circles. What do you propose?
    withdraw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Птиц
    withdraw
    alright, :D
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