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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakadil
    Аха! Все-таки была причина - состояние емерженси государства. Ну, и кого посадили?
    ну вобщем то это ширкодостпуная инфа. странно что вы не знали. если вам интерсно <google.com> к вашим услугам...

    <emergency> до 73 года? :vesh:

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    интерсная вещь на мой взгляд
    GOLD AND ECONOMIC FREEDOM

    by Alan Greenspan
    In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold. If everyone decided, for example, to convert all his bank deposits to silver or copper or any other good, and thereafter declined to accept checks as payment for goods, bank deposits would lose their purchasing power and government-created bank credit would be worthless as a claim on goods. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves.

    This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard.
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north204.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakomka
    Интерсно, насколько сейчас американское государво способно на что то подобное? (множно еще напомнить про японцев , американских граждан - во времена второй мировой).... во имя той же борьбы с террором
    They were just moving away from the gold standard to the wild cat system ... the system we still use today.

    EU did the same in staring Jan 1 1999, to switch from old currencies to Euro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberus
    They were just moving away from the gold standard to the wild cat system ... the system we still use today.

    EU did the same in staring Jan 1 1999, to switch from old currencies to Euro.
    Agree, and to control the system they use fiscal and monetary policies today, what's the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharik
    Agree, and to control the system they use fiscal and monetary policies today, what's the problem?
    it does not really work :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakomka
    it does not really work :rolleyes:
    Again agree, fiscally policies depends on the government, which is not pefect.
    Loved Greenspen, he didn't get involved into politics, his monetary policies were often quite good

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharik
    Again agree, fiscally policies depends on the government, which is not pefect.
    Loved Greenspen, he didn't get involved into politics, his monetary policies were often quite good
    which part: deflation or inflation? or crash of stocks? :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakomka
    which part: deflation or inflation? or crash of stocks? :rolleyes:
    he was a chairman since 1987. There are different thoughts in economics, same as politics, some people would disagree, personnaly i agree with many of his thoughts and imho he is very-very intelligent. U have the right to disagree...

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    а как насчет людей которые потеряли работу/деньги во время дефляции которую он устроил своими действиями. :rolleyes:

    кстати, иногда полезно признавать спои ошибки

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakomka
    а как насчет людей которые потеряли работу/деньги во время дефляции которую он устроил своими действиями. :rolleyes:

    кстати, иногда полезно признавать спои ошибки
    sorry i'm not in the mood to ague, not today. Didn't change my opinion...

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