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    Quote Originally Posted by Рэдрик View Post
    кстати, пока шарил по "восточным" материалам, наткнулся на статистику
    оказывается до 90% убитых в Афганистане при бомбежках высокоточными бомбами и ракетами - побочные потери, т.е. мирное население

    про Сирию такой статистики не попадалось, но наверное то же самое
    Глупости. Сейчас прийдет Кадет и докажет, что в Сирии малоточные самолетящие ФАБ-Пицот не убили ни единого мирного жителя, а попали все терористам в глаз...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whoever View Post
    давно zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz не заглядывал.
    и где мусульманин?
    где, где.... в нейборхуде Моленбек!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izold View Post
    где, где.... в нейборхуде Моленбек!
    этот, форумский?
    вряд ли.
    его даже туда не пустят.
    он, скорее всего, под санкциями

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    Я прошу,администраторов данного форума прекратить деятельность данного руссофобскоого интернет ресурса.

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    Quote Originally Posted by КотКанаццкий View Post
    Глупости. Сейчас прийдет Кадет и докажет, что в Сирии малоточные самолетящие ФАБ-Пицот не убили ни единого мирного жителя, а попали все терористам в глаз...
    96.5% побочных потерь

    New analysis of data conducted by human rights group Reprieve shared with the Guardian, raises questions about accuracy of intelligence guiding ‘precise’ strikes

    A new analysis of the data available to the public about drone strikes, conducted by the human-rights group Reprieve, indicates that even when operators target specific individuals – the most focused effort of what Barack Obama calls “targeted killing” – they kill vastly more people than their targets, often needing to strike multiple times. Attempts to kill 41 men resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1,147 people, as of 24 November.

    “Drone strikes have been sold to the American public on the claim that they’re ‘precise’. But they are only as precise as the intelligence that feeds them. There is nothing precise about intelligence that results in the deaths of 28 unknown people, including women and children, for every ‘bad guy’ the US goes after”


    Some 24 men specifically targeted in Pakistan resulted in the death of 874 people. An estimated 142 children were killed in the course of pursuing those 24 men, only six of whom died in the course of drone strikes that killed their intended targets.

    In Yemen, 17 named men were targeted multiple times. Strikes on them killed 273 people, at least seven of them children. At least four of the targets are still alive.
    Available data for the 41 men targeted for drone strikes across both countries indicate that each of them was reported killed multiple times. Seven of them are believed to still be alive. The status of another, Haji Omar, is unknown. Abu Ubaidah al-Masri, whom drones targeted three times, later died from natural causes, believed to be hepatitis.

    An analytically conservative Council on Foreign Relations tally assesses that 500 drone strikes outside of Iraq and Afghanistan have killed 3,674 people.

    Even for the 33 named targets whom the drones eventually killed – successes, by the logic of the drone strikes – another 947 people died in the process.

    The drones came for Ayman Zawahiri on 13 January 2006, hovering over a villagein Pakistan called Damadola. Ten months later, they came again for the man who would become al-Qaida’s leader, this time in Bajaur. Eight years later, Zawahiri is still alive. Seventy-six children and 29 adults, according to reports after the two strikes, are not.


    However many Americans know who Zawahiri is, far fewer are familiar with Qari Hussain. Hussain was a deputy commander of the Pakistani Taliban, a militant group aligned with al-Qaida that trained the would-be Times Square bomber, Faisal Shahzad, before his unsuccessful 2010 attack. The drones first came for Hussain years before, on 29 January 2008. Then they came on 23 June 2009, 15 January 2010, 2 October 2010 and 7 October 2010.
    Finally, on 15 October 2010, Hellfire missiles fired from a Predator or Reaper drone killed Hussain, the Pakistani Taliban later confirmed. For the death of a man whom practically no American can name, the US killed 128 people, 13 of them children, none of whom it meant to harm.


    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...ikes-kill-1147




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    Quote Originally Posted by Рэдрик View Post
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    96.5% побочных потерь

    New analysis of data conducted by human rights group Reprieve shared with the Guardian, raises questions about accuracy of intelligence guiding ‘precise’ strikes

    A new analysis of the data available to the public about drone strikes, conducted by the human-rights group Reprieve, indicates that even when operators target specific individuals – the most focused effort of what Barack Obama calls “targeted killing” – they kill vastly more people than their targets, often needing to strike multiple times. Attempts to kill 41 men resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1,147 people, as of 24 November.

    Т.е. рядом с главарем, которого определили как цель, будут находиться побочные исключительно мамы, дети и старики? В этом твоя и Гардиан логика? Поясни, плз. Только по этой цитате, не накидывай кучу про Ерему.

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    Quote Originally Posted by КотКанаццкий View Post
    Т.е. рядом с главарем, которого определили как цель, будут находиться побочные исключительно мамы, дети и старики? В этом твоя и Гардиан логика? Поясни, плз. Только по этой цитате, не накидывай кучу про Ерему.
    прочитай то, что цитируешь
    там есть ответ на этот (странный) вопрос

    если все же не получится - дай знать, я подскажу
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    ужасно знакомые интонации, года два назад был такой человек - стуле ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izold View Post
    ужасно знакомые интонации, года два назад был такой человек - стуле ...
    Стуле, звучит как олле лукойе

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    канадцы, примите соболезнования по поводу погибших при крушении... Сюр какой-то - люди летят на похороны и разбиваются ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Рэдрик View Post
    прочитай то, что цитируешь
    там есть ответ на этот (странный) вопрос

    если все же не получится - дай знать, я подскажу
    А если я не верю в этот бред? Кто делал замеры? Откуда дровишки? Взяли количество страйков и разделили на количество погибших мирных?

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