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    Quote Originally Posted by КотКанаццкий View Post
    Хотелось бы услышать пару фактов. Сможешь?
    Буду за компом может быть, если не поленюсь

    Это легко гуглится, по американским источниеам кстати

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    - КРЫМНАШ!!!!!!!!!!!!
    - Назовите три города в Крыму.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Рэдрик View Post
    Буду за компом может быть, если не поленюсь

    Это легко гуглится, по американским источниеам кстати
    Хорошо. Меня интересует снабжение ЗАПАДОМ ИМЕННО ИГИЛА ИМЕННО, причем ОРУЖИЕМ ИМЕННО.

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    Quote Originally Posted by КотКанаццкий View Post
    Хорошо. Меня интересует снабжение ЗАПАДОМ ИМЕННО ИГИЛА ИМЕННО, причем ОРУЖИЕМ ИМЕННО.
    Ты уже обкладываешь дополнительные условия?
    Я на такие фокусы не покупаюсь

    Новейшее оружие, поставляемое "дружественным" исламистом практически все попадает к игилу, вместе с этими исламистами. Это признавалось официально.

    Вот так и происходит их снабжение. Не знаю это считается "именно" или как то по другому, но суть от этого не изменяется

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izold View Post
    дамы-господа, католики всех мастей и армяне, все празднующие в этот день - с Праздником !

    Jesus Christ is risen! Love has triumphed over hatred, life has conquered death, light has dispelled the darkness! (Pope Francis)
    Я так и знал, шо типичный Иудэй из Бруклена... только так, нас, Христиан, с Пасхой может поздравить!
    Last edited by Serge7; 03-28-2016 at 12:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Рэдрик View Post
    Ты уже обкладываешь дополнительные условия?
    Я на такие фокусы не покупаюсь

    Новейшее оружие, поставляемое "дружественным" исламистом практически все попадает к игилу, вместе с этими исламистами. Это признавалось официально.

    Вот так и происходит их снабжение. Не знаю это считается "именно" или как то по другому, но суть от этого не изменяется
    Вот твой пост:

    Quote Originally Posted by Рэдрик View Post
    Сирийцы освободили от террористов древний город Пальмиру. При поддержке боевой российской авиации.

    А за годы западного военного вмешательства в конфликт произошло две вещи:
    - захват террористами игил обширных территорий
    - вооружение террористов из игил и алькаиды современным западным оружием (американским в основном)

    Вопрос: на чьей стороне вообще воюем?!
    Вот мой вопрос:
    Quote Originally Posted by КотКанаццкий View Post
    Хорошо. Меня интересует снабжение ЗАПАДОМ ИМЕННО ИГИЛА ИМЕННО, причем ОРУЖИЕМ ИМЕННО.
    Теперь мне интересно, где ты нашел ДОПОЛНИТЕЛЬНЫЕ УСЛОВИЯ? Что я придумал дополнительно, а не почерпнул из твоего безапеляционного утверждения?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Рэдрик View Post
    Новейшее оружие, поставляемое "дружественным" исламистом практически все попадает к игилу, вместе с этими исламистами. Это признавалось официально.
    Итак, если оружие попало к ИГИЛу, то именно Запад или Омерига СНАБЖАЕТ (вооружает) ИГИЛ ОРУЖИЕМ, я правильно тебя понимаю?

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    Quote Originally Posted by КотКанаццкий View Post
    Итак, если оружие попало к ИГИЛу, то именно Запад или Омерига СНАБЖАЕТ (вооружает) ИГИЛ ОРУЖИЕМ, я правильно тебя понимаю?
    Об этом и политики говорят, и военные (американские)

    Странно что ты об этом не слышал

    Целые отряды подготовленные и вооруженные американцами для войны с асадом перешли к игилу

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serge7 View Post
    Я так и знал, шо типичный Иудэй из Бруклена... только так, нас, Христиан, с Пасхой может поздравить!
    Странно.

    На поздравления обычно отвечают, примерно: "Спасибо, и вас также. Здоровья, счастья, успехов".

    У тебя необычная реакция на поздравления.
    Сказать "нехристианская" - это ничего не сказать.

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    Quote Originally Posted by КотКанаццкий View Post
    Хотелось бы услышать пару фактов. Сможешь?
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    ISIS, the world’s most infamous terror group, has shocked the interwebz again after posting a new propaganda video that showcases its massive arsenal of tanks and heavy artillery. The video shows tank after tank, artillery piece after artillery piece, and Toyota truck after Toyota truck rolling triumphantly by, all in an effort to recruit radical Islamic youth to the caliphate’s cause. If some of those arms look oddly familiar, it’s because many — if not most of them — are American-made weapons.

    In the battle of Mosul alone, ISIS captured 2,300 American-made Humvees worth over $1 billion.

    However, prior to the capture of Mosul, the groups, which eventually became ISIS, were receiving weapons from U.S. allies in the region — including Saudi Arabia and Turkey — in an attempt to use Islamist fighters to overthrow the Russian-backed Syrian government of Bashar al-Assad. The weapons these Sunni states were supplying to ISIS, then in its infancy, were being sold by the West to the Gulf countries. The largest seller was the Unites States, followed by the United Kingdom — two countries that are now bombing ISIS.

    And we can’t forget about the “moderate” Syrian opposition that the U.S. and its allies have been training and arming since 2013. Many of ISIS’ arms have come from units defecting from the Free Syrian Army, as well as other rebel groups previously aligned with the United States and its plan to oust Bashar al-Assad. “ISIS has also gained access to weapons from other sources through the capture or sale of Syrian military stocks supplied to armed opposition groups in Syria by countries including Turkey, the Gulf States and the U.S.,” concluded CNN.

    http://www.mintpressnews.com/isis-sh...-video/211954/

    In its 2015 budget, the Pentagon hasrequested $1.3 billion to provide weapons for the government forces and $24.1 million intended for the tribes.

    But some of the weaponry recently supplied by the army has already ended up on the black market and in the hands of Islamic State fighters, according to Iraqi officers and lawmakers.

    Тhe United States has been unable to funnel weapons through Iraq without ISIS getting them. So in Syria, where the U.S. has inferior knowledge and intelligence gathering, was it ever plausible for Washington to identify and arm "moderate rebels" without a much greater risk of ISIS getting ahold of the weapons?

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/how-us-weapons-fall-into-the-hands-of-terrorists/383095/

    The IS is using weapons the US and Sunni coalition countries “inadvertently” provided it with while supporting the Arab Spring. The militants, in particular, pried arms from Syrian rebels

    Тhe irony is that the US in a larger coalition is using these weapons often times against IS, which has been armed inadvertently by the US and by this Sunni coalition countries because we provided arms in the context of the Arab Awakening to support the uprising against Assad and IS ended up prying these weapons away from the so-called moderate Syrian rebels as well as by scaring the Iraqi Federal Forces into submission. The US had been arming to the teeth the Iraqi government. So IS is actually fighting using our own weapons against us.

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/198508-isis-weapons-us-war-terrorism/

    For more than a decade, the United States has supplied huge quantities of weapons and military hardware to the Iraqi government—and a large chunk of that equipment has disappeared and landed in the hands of ISIS fighters and members of Iranian-backed Shiite militias responsible for massacring civilians. Everything from M-16s and bullets to Humvees and tanks have been lost. But neither the US nor Iraqi governments can say how much US-supplied materiel has been diverted to militant groups or how it's ending up there.

    Losing weapons to extremists and insurgents has long been a problem for the US military and the Iraqi army, but it became more urgent after ISIS seized chunks of Iraq in 2014, overrunning Iraqi troops and sweeping up their weapons. With that equipment, ISIS solidified its hold on its captured territory and drew the United States back into Iraq.

    Nearly 200,000 US-supplied weapons went unaccounted for in Iraq, due to shoddy recordkeeping by the Iraqi army and the US-led coalition. The GAO couldn't tell where those weapons went, but many probably landed in the hands of jihadists. A "substantial portion" of ISIS's weapons come from Iraqi army stocks.

    By shipping arms to Iraq despite these problem, the US government risks violating both domestic and international law.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/01/why-iraq-black-hole-american-arms
    An Isis video boasting of its capture of Palmyra showed a militant operating this American-made anti-tank missile launcher

    The Islamic's State's embarrassing seizure of military gear ranging from American M-16s to armored Humvees made headlines around the world. But that incident was only the tip of the iceberg in terms of how many weapons the group has pilfered from the Iraqi military, says a new report released this week by Amnesty International.

    The report says the Iraqi army has indirectly supplied ISIS and other fighting groups for more than a decade thanks to lax systems of weapons control and accountability. The 2014 incident, Amnesty says, is only the latest in a long pattern of arms supplied to Iraq by the United States and other nations that then disappeared into the hands of militants.

    That has made the whole issue of weapons proliferation incredibly serious in Iraq and spilling over into Syria, and has armed not just the Islamic State but many other armed groups.

    During last June alone, according to the UN Security Council, ISIS captured enough weapons, ammunition, and vehicles to arm three Iraqi divisions, or 40,000 to 50,000 soldiers.

    The quantity and range of [ISIS] stocks of arms and ammunition ultimately reflect decades of irresponsible arms transfers to Iraq. That includes not only small arms and bullets, which Wilcken and other arms control monitors admit are difficult to track, but larger vehicles and equipment, including surface-to-air and anti-tank missiles, Humvees, and even modern American M1A1 tanks.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/12/heres-how-isis-gets-its-guns



    No less than 30 M1 Abrams main battle tanks have fallen into ISIS’ hands.

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