Не надо додумывать. Если люди приходят с ролексами то их надо на органы прямо в суде распределить, ибо единственная польза...Originally Posted by Yurikka
Re: Пипец, свершилось!
Не надо додумывать. Если люди приходят с ролексами то их надо на органы прямо в суде распределить, ибо единственная польза...
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Re: Пипец, свершилось!
Откуда Мерс в лиз если нет имкома?И с каких пор расходы расматриваются как инкоме?Ну ездит он на Мерсе,ну держит в гараже,ну живёт в палатах,так это всё не его гарантирую на 150%.И потом откуда суд возьмёт эту информацию?
Re: Пипец, свершилось!
А может это "Ролекс" за $20?Заставите судью проводить экспертизу?Ребята вы повидимому не имеете реального представления о том ,что реально происходит в судах.
Re: Пипец, свершилось!
меня поражает персистенс товарищей думать что кругом одни идиоты. вы когда нибудь видели "контору" которая оплачивает бенц, пентхауз и все расходы на жизнь но при этом не платит зарплату ? это возможно только в том случае если муж является владельцем конторы и вот тут-то у него и начнутся проблеммы. кстати, судья может рефёрнуть такое дело и в ИРС...
ну а за то что жена с адвокатиком должны искать так это правда, но, в виду того что мы говорим не за интересы жены а за ИНТЕРЕСЫ РЕБЁНКА, то и суд может и без адвокатика поднапрячь мужичка нащёт его доходов...
Re: Пипец, свершилось!
И чтоб так было и впредь.
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Re: Пипец, свершилось!
На каком основании?
Re: Пипец, свершилось!
Хозяйка конторы его любимая тетя. Что дальше?
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Re: Пипец, свершилось!
А даже сам.Что меняет?
Re: Пипец, свершилось!
[:grum:] Задача суда не поймать подлеца, а назначит выплаты... Это разные вещи..... Судья при всем своем уме и возможносрей искать в чем мужик провинилсы, суд решает провенился ли он!!! Поисками в чем он провинился занимают свои органы....
Вот скажите мне тогда как отпустили Симпсона из-за какой то перчатки? Суд отпустил, а все остальные знали что он кого то завалил, а суд сказал свободен!!! как так?
Re: Пипец, свершилось!
не его? замечательно! поэтому это и называется ИМПьЮТЭД ИНКОМ... да и суду эта информация можно сказать по боку. как говорили в совке? не можешь научим не хочешь - импьютнем!
вот вам навскидку, читайте, просвещайтесь, готовьтесь... этот муж тоже думал что он гол как сокол и что кругом одни идиоты.
Hearing examiner properly imputed income to former husband based upon former husband's lifestyle, as basis for finding that former husband's violation of child support order entered incident to divorce was willful; former husband was illegally working “off the books” and was therefore unable to document his claimed income level, and while he was seeking bankruptcy protection from his child support obligation, he was not seeking such protection from any other obligations, and continued to make regular payments on his car and boat loans.
Mr. T. has filed a petition asking this Court to review his objections to a finding of willful violation of an existing order of child support that was made by Hearing Examiner Elaine Crosson. *327 Actually this is the third willful violation proceeding against Mr. T.
Although there are certain alleged procedural defects, the thrust of Mr. T.'s objection is that since the Judgment of Divorce dated August 1994, there has been a substantial change in his financial circumstances. He asserts that his failure to pay child support is not a willful violation. He is trying his best to do all he can for his children in his present economic circumstances, but he cannot comply. In addition to prior willful violation proceedings, Mr. T. asserted similar claims in an unsuccessful downward modification petition that was denied in 1996.
In this willful violation proceeding, Mr. T. alleges that the Hearing Examiner did not give adequate consideration to his proof of reduced income and therefore, made an incorrect finding of willful default. The problem that the Hearing Examiner had to consider and that this Court must review, is whether or not there was credible evidence that Mr. T.'s income has, in fact, decreased and whether or not Mr. T. has truly been trying to support his children.
The evidence before the Hearing Examiner shows that Mr. T. has a college education and years of experience in the securities industry in New York City.
Since the divorce Mr. T. has left his employment in New York City. He still maintains a contractual relationship which authorizes him to sell securities on behalf of a licensed security firm on Long Island. When he entered into this contract in 1995 he was given a signing bonus, but since then this commission based relationship has not been fruitful. From January through July of 1997 he claimed to have profited only $1,109.63 in commissions.
Although he maintains a car to travel about to attempt to make securities sales, he has found that he is able to be more successful using his truck in his other employment. Mr. T.'s testimony is that rather than profiting from his education and experience in the securities industry, his primary source of income has evolved from his interest in boats. He relies on his work as a laborer in a local boat yard. Although it does not approach what he was making in the city, it is the best he can do.
[1] Headnote Citing References Both Mr. T. and a corporate officer of the boat yard testified that he is earning approximately $300 a week there. Unfortunately, neither one of them were able to verify this. They both also agreed that they don't maintain any records of the exact amount since Mr. T. is paid in cash. There are no canceled *328 checks to review, no accounting records; Mr. T. is paid in cash “off the books”. A question that requires careful consideration is how much weight should be given to this type of evidence as a defense against a claim of willful violation of a support order?
Mr. T. proclaims his “off the books” employment as a cornerstone of his defense. In order to accept this type of defense, the Hearing Examiner and this Court in the objection review process would have to completely turn around the prior judicial view of this type of activity.
The testimony of Mr. T. and his employer constitute admissions of wrongdoing. It is inappropriate for this Court to permit such illegality to be accepted as a defense to a claim for child support. This admitted conduct of “working off the books” can only be interpreted as a loud and clear statement by the petitioner that he will not deal honestly with his financial obligations to society or his children.
The evidence showed that virtually every day Mr. T. has a choice. He can get in his car, join with other securities salespersons in assisting clients in purchasing various investments; or he can get in his truck and work “off the books” in a boat yard. The choice he has made is clear. Rather than having to report his income from various purchases by clients, perhaps even including triple tax free bonds, he has adopted a triple tax free lifestyle.
*329 In this situation, there is no fair middle ground. The testimony concerning the amount received as “off the books” income must be either embraced or questioned by the Court. Evaluating this without the skepticism that traditionally accompanies illegal activity would result in judicial endorsement of a less than fair support proceeding. Fairness must be afforded not only to the respondent, but to the petitioner for child support and the children themselves. Simply accepting claimed figures of “off the books” income as reliable is an invitation to unjust results in a murky and faulted fact finding process. In this state the amount of child support is determined by a formula that dictates a percentage of income as an outside limit on a parent's obligation. The analysis is relatively simple. The dishonest, selfish parent has only to look for a support figure acceptable to themselves and irrefutably testify to the matching figure as a “off the books” income. This has to be discouraged.
This Court cannot permit Mr. T.'s unwillingness to maintain records of income and unwillingness to pay Federal Income Tax, State Income Tax, Social Security tax and Medicaid tax to be utilized as a defense to his obligation to pay child support. The Hearing Examiner was correct to move beyond Mr. T.'s unverified claims of reduced income and to move on to a consideration of his lifestyle as reflective of his ability to pay child support.
[2] Headnote Citing References At the time of the divorce Mr. & Mrs. T. owned a home, a number of motor vehicles and enjoyed their sailboat. Today, Mr. T. is a homeowner; instead of his wife, his parents are now his partners. He owns a car and a truck, and still has a sailboat. He asserts that the sailboat is now mortgaged and there is a loan on the car. He claims that he has filed a petition in Federal Court seeking bankruptcy protection from the child support payments. It is interesting and highly probative that he is not seeking bankruptcy protection from the car loan, but in fact, continues to make the payments. This is probative because it again demonstrates the correctness of the Hearing Examiner's findings. In essence Mr. T. places protection of his assets as a priority above his obligations to his children.
In summary, the evidence shows that today Mr. T.'s lifestyle is virtually identical to what it was prior to the divorce. If he could just be protected from child support payments, he would be able to sustain everything else. The Hearing Examiner correctly rejected his position. He must recognize that in order to demonstrate to the Court that he has a reduced income he must *330 have proper records of “on the books” employment. To demonstrate to **547 the Court that he's doing all that he can to support his children, he must be prepared to show that his economic obligation to them is the priority. Certainly, by making payments on his car and boat loans, and forsaking his children, he has failed to demonstrate an inability to pay the current order of support and is unwilling to do so. The fact that the petition in bankruptcy is not seeking protection from creditors related to one of his two cars or his sailboat, so that he could support his children, serves to support the finding of willful default.
Accordingly, this Court finds that the Hearing Examiner properly imputed income to petitioner. There was no abuse of discretion on the part of the Hearing Examiner, and after review of the record, no error on the part of the Hearing Examiner can be found. The record reflects that the Examiner conducted a full and fair hearing on the support violation petition filed by the respondent and that the petitioner. William T.'s contentions were properly considered and disregarded. Under the circumstances, there is no cause or reason to disturb the Examiner's findings. The objections are accordingly denied.
The finding of willfulness with respect to petitioner William S. T.'s failure to pay support is confirmed.
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