Обама и его речь в Кайро

[Птиц]

Ты можешь спокойно спросить без всяких веников?

Спросил:

Когда одна страна нападает и оккупирует другую, и часть населения начинает воевать за оккупантов, в этом случае война вдруг раз - и становится гражданской?

сформулировать попроще?

да - и за одно данные по замученных Саддамом сотням тысяч - в студию. а то как-то некошерно получается....

[crazy-mike]

Почитайте Библию.

А правоверным христианам (добрым католикам - по крайней мере) это чтение принципиально не рекомендовалось несколько сотен лет. Только комментарии "отцов Церкви" - да и то in brief! :grum:
Даже основной идеей "изобретения книгопечатания" у Гутенберга было дать христианам возможность свободно читать Библию! :grum:

[EmPrEsS]

Почитайте Библию.

Не сливайтесь на Библию. Просто пункт А можете озвучить?

[Alex5448]

Спросил:

сформулировать попроще?

да - и за одно данные по замученных Саддамом сотням тысяч - в студию. а то как-то некошерно получается....

Если бы ты учил матчасть перед дисскусиями, как я тебе предлагал уже несколько раз, ты бы не задал этот вопрос. В Ираке идет гражданская война в основном между суннитами и шиитами, никто из них не воюет "за окупантов". Исламисты мочут друг друга.
Про состни тысячь замученных Саддамом:
Human rights organizations have documented government approved executions, acts of torture, and rape for decades since Saddam Hussein came to power in 1979 until his fall in 2003.


Chemical weapons which were used by Saddam killed and injured numerous Iranian and Iraqis.

• Halabja poison gas attack:The Halabja poison gas attack occurred in the period 15 March–19 March 1988 during the Iran–Iraq War when chemical weapons were used by the Iraqi government forces and thousands civilians in the Iraqi Kurdish town of Halabja were killed.[1]

• Al-Anfal Campaign: In 1988, the Hussein regime began a campaign of extermination against the Kurdish people living in Northern Iraq. This is known as the Anfal campaign. The campaign was mostly directed at Shiite kurds (Faili Kurds) who sided with Iranians during the Iraq-Iran War. The attacks resulted in the death of at least 50,000 (some reports estimate as many as 100,000 people), many of them women and children. A team of Human Rights Watch investigators determined, after analyzing eighteen tons of captured Iraqi documents, testing soil samples and carrying out interviews with more than 350 witnesses, that the attacks on the Kurdish people were characterized by gross violations of human rights, including mass executions and disappearances of many tens of thousands of noncombatants, widespread use of chemical weapons including Sarin, mustard gas and nerve agents that killed thousands, the arbitrary imprisoning of tens of thousands of women, children, and elderly people for months in conditions of extreme deprivation, forced displacement of hundreds of thousands of villagers after the demolition of their homes, and the wholesale destruction of nearly two thousand villages along with their schools, mosques, farms, and power stations.[1][2]

• In April 1991, after Saddam lost control of Kuwait in the Persian Gulf War, he cracked down ruthlessly against several uprisings in the Kurdish north and the Shia south. His forces committed wholesale massacres and other gross human rights violations against both groups similar to the violations mentioned before. Estimates of deaths during that time range from 20,000 to 100,000 for Kurds, and 60,000 to 130,000 for Shi'ites.[3]

• In June 1994, the Hussein regime in Iraq established severe penalties, including amputation, branding and the death penalty for criminal offenses such as theft, corruption, currency speculation and military desertion, while government members and Saddam's family members were immune from punishments ranging around these crimes.[4]

• On March 23, 2003, during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Iraqi television presented and interviewed prisoners of war on TV, violating the Geneva Convention.

• Also in April 2003, CNN revealed that it had withheld information about Iraq torturing journalists and Iraqi citizens in the 1990s. According to CNN's chief news executive, the channel had been concerned for the safety not only of its own staff, but also of Iraqi sources and informants, who could expect punishment for speaking freely to reporters. Also according to the executive, "other news organizations were in the same bind."[5]

• After the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, several mass graves were found in Iraq containing several thousand bodies total, and more are being uncovered to this day[citation needed]. While most of the dead in the graves were believed to have died in the 1991 uprising against Saddam Hussein, some of them appeared to have died due to executions or died at times other than the 1991 rebellion.

• Also after the invasion, numerous torture centers were found in security offices and police stations throughout Iraq. The equipment found at these centers typically included hooks for hanging people by the hands for beatings, devices for electric shock, and other equipment often found in nations with harsh security services and other authoritarian nations.

Об ирано иракской войне я и не говорю.

[Alex5448]

Не сливайтесь на Библию. Просто пункт А можете озвучить?

Египет.

[Птиц]

В Ираке идет гражданская война в основном между суннитами и шиитами,

Алекс, отвечать предыдущим утверждением на заданный вопрос = "тупить", или "далдонить".
Гражданская война (по твоему определению) в Ираке началась сама собой?

никто из них не воюет "за окупантов".

Власть, насаждаемая оккупантами - бипартизанская и не относится ни той, ни к другой исламской деноминации?

Про состни тысячь замученных Саддамом:

Вики я и сам могу почитать. особенно радует про "сам рипортс эстимэйт".
Че-нить поконкретнее есть? Кто считал, как и т.д.

[EmPrEsS]

Египет.

Спасиба... :grum:

Так вот... Не пора ли вспомнить об истинном доме, ну там - "вернуться на круги своя"...? Не думаете? Там же давно нет уже рабства? (Не призываю ни к чему, но чисто гипотетически, а?)

[crazy-mike]

Спасиба... :grum:

Так вот... Не пора ли вспомнить об истинном доме, ну там - "вернуться на круги своя"...? Не думаете? Там же давно нет уже рабства? (Не призываю ни к чему, но чисто гипотетически, а?)

А в Египте практически самая крупная еврейская community в Африке - даже сейчас. :grum:

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Скока раз по десять отсидел?

[crazy-mike]

:crazy:
http://www.crazymikefishing.com/