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Alechko
05-04-2013, 08:25 PM
отkрыл тему за неделю до его дня рожденя
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Alechko
05-04-2013, 09:31 PM
To die to everything of yesterday
To be free of all authority, of your own and that of another, is to die to everything of yesterday, so that your mind is always fresh, always young, innocent, full of vigour and passion. It is only in that state that one learns and observes. And for this a great deal of awareness is required, actual awareness of what is going on inside yourself, without correcting it or telling it what it should or should not be, because the moment you correct it you have established another authority, a censor.
Freedom from the Known,19
Alechko
05-04-2013, 09:55 PM
Most people are unhappy; and they are unhappy because there is no love in their hearts. Love will arise in your heart when you have no barrier between yourself and another, when you meet and observe people without judging them, when you just see the sailboat on the river and enjoy the beauty of it. Don't let your prejudices cloud your observation of things as they are; just observe, and you will discover that out of this simple observation, out of this awareness of trees, of birds, of people walking, working, smiling, something happens to you inside. Without this extraordinary thing happening to you, without the arising of love in your heart, life has very little meaning; and that is why it is so important that the educator should be educated to help you understand the significance of all these things.
This Matter of Culture
Alechko
05-04-2013, 10:04 PM
Why do human beings die so miserably, so unhappily, with a disease, old age, senility, the body shrunk, ugly? Why can’t they die naturally and as beautifully as this leaf? What is wrong with us? In spite of all the doctors, medicines and hospitals, operations and all the agony of life, and the pleasures too, we don’t seem able to die with dignity, simplicity, and with a smile…
As you teach children mathematics, writing, reading and all the business of acquiring knowledge, they should also be taught the great dignity of death, not as a morbid, unhappy thing that one has to face eventually, but as something of daily life—the daily life of looking at the blue sky and the grasshopper on a leaf.
untamed
05-04-2013, 10:11 PM
Потрясающий философ, глубина его мыслей вечна.
Я раньше Оша читала, а до него Ганди.
Когда ты его для себя открыл?
Alechko
05-05-2013, 12:08 PM
Потрясающий философ, глубина его мыслей вечна.
Я раньше Оша читала, а до него Ганди.
Когда ты его для себя открыл?
знал о нем давно
но не мог связать его философию в одно целое
сегодня понимаю почти все
А может за время в пути собачка могла подрасти (c)
Alechko
05-05-2013, 12:20 PM
In business you must use your technological knowledge, but when that knowledge is used for psychological purposes—to become more powerful, occupy a position that gives you prestige, honor, fame—it breeds only antagonism, hatred; such a mind can never possibly understand what truth is...
Talks & Dialogues Saanen 1968, p 94
Reitarou
05-05-2013, 12:31 PM
Индусы - опасные ребята.
Alechko
05-05-2013, 12:41 PM
Индусы - опасные ребята.
If my mind, my brain is conditioned by Hindu superstitions, beliefs, dogmas and idolatry, with all the ancient tradition, then it is anchored to that and cannot move, it is not free....
The Network of Thought
Reitarou
05-05-2013, 12:43 PM
Я им ни на грош не верю.
Alechko
05-05-2013, 12:46 PM
:239: а kто конкретно просит?
Alechko
05-05-2013, 12:47 PM
Кришнамурти и религия - нечего общего
Reitarou
05-05-2013, 12:55 PM
Учитывая то, какую жизненную позицию занимает большая часть населения Индии, с изрядной долей уверенности можно сделать вывод, что к любым заявлениям политического руководства Индии, а также творческой интеллигенции и научных кругов этой древней страны, следует относиться с изрядной долей критицизма.
Alechko
05-05-2013, 01:02 PM
кретицизму предпочитаю оставаться скептиком but open-minded.
Yurikka
05-05-2013, 01:41 PM
кришнамурти крут но так жить невозможно... я читал его в двацать лет до сих пор депресит.
Reitarou
05-05-2013, 01:46 PM
кришнамурти крут но так жить невозможно... я читал его в двацать лет до сих пор депресит.
Надо говорить "колбасит". :313:
Alechko
05-05-2013, 01:57 PM
в двадцать +/- Эйнштейн был моим кумиром, так он и остался по сей день
Alechko
05-05-2013, 02:19 PM
кришнамурти крут но так жить невозможно... я читал его в двацать лет до сих пор депресит.
вот от Юнга и вариаций его эксперимeнта штормит неподеццки ))) :122:
untamed
05-08-2013, 08:04 PM
знал о нем давно
но не мог связать его философию в одно целое
сегодня понимаю почти все
А может за время в пути собачка могла подрасти (c)
Моя еще растет.
untamed
05-08-2013, 08:11 PM
в двадцать +/- Эйнштейн был моим кумиром, так он и остался по сей день
Мне - Deepak Chopra, Gregg Braden, Eckhard Tolle.
Alechko
05-08-2013, 10:45 PM
Мне - Деепак Чопра, Грегг Браден, Ецхард Толле.
все интересные личности
Браден с его базой в квантовой механике
одним словом мы все одна большая голограмма :192:
Alechko
05-08-2013, 10:47 PM
the best by Einstein:
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one (c)
nefertiti
05-14-2013, 12:25 AM
Eckhard Tolle
Пустая руна(ц.)... :116: Не могу признать его талант. He is a pussy...
Alechko
05-27-2013, 04:39 PM
... He is a pussy...
why is that?
Alechko
05-27-2013, 04:39 PM
The fact is that life is like the river: endlessly moving on, ever seeking, exploring, pushing, overflowing its banks, penetrating every crevice with its water. But, you see, the mind won't allow that to happen to itself. The mind sees that it is dangerous, risky to live in a state of impermanency, insecurity, so it builds a wall around itself: the wall of tradition, of organized religion, of political and social theories. Family, name, property, the little virtues that we have cultivated - these are all within the walls, away from life. Life is moving, impermanent, and it ceaselessly tries to penetrate, to break down these walls, behind which there is confusion and misery. The gods within the walls are all false gods, and their writings and philosophies have no meaning because life is beyond them.
Now, a mind that has no walls, that is not burdened with its own acquisitions, accumulations, with its own knowledge, a mind that lives timelessly, insecurely - to such a mind, life is an extraordinary thing. Such a mind is life itself, because life has no resting place. But most of us want a resting place; we want a little house, a name, a position, and we say these things are very important. We demand permanency and create a culture based on this demand, inventing gods which are not gods at all but merely a projection of our own desires.
A mind which is seeking permanency soon stagnates; like that pool along the river, it is soon full of corruption, decay. Only the mind which has no walls, no foothold, no barrier, no resting place, which is moving completely with life, timelessly pushing on, exploring, exploding - only such a mind can be happy, eternally new, because it is creative in itself.
J.K.
Alechko
05-27-2013, 04:44 PM
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http://www.prem-rawat-bio.org/gurus/img/krishnamurti/kandw.jpg
nefertiti
05-27-2013, 09:41 PM
why is that?
Once I started following Left Hand Path things became crystal clear to me. Its very easy to see what is pussy and what is not... There is no coming back, it would be a degradation, from the point of view of that paradigm...