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    Quote Originally Posted by Odinokiy_Ostrov
    Нет. Не берут. [Under HIPAA], они обязаны брать только в определённых условиях. После Меди-Кела - не обязаны брать.
    Я, кстати, тоже про это читала, когда лопатила инфу. Они берут только в том случае, если был непрерывающийся каверадж в страховой компании мин.18 месяцев or something like that.

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    Default Re: Не знаю, что делать..

    Quote Originally Posted by Жирик
    Платина?
    На самом деле, я тебе скажу, это великий шаг..Я воспылала уважением к нашему незнакомцу, прям держитиминясемеро
    :evillaugh :cheer:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Акватрель
    На самом деле, я тебе скажу, это великий шаг..Я воспылала уважением к нашему незнакомцу, прям держитиминясемеро
    :евиллаугх :чеер:
    Я должен с тобой согласиться. Я сижу и думаю, сделал бы я тоже самое? Честоно говоря не знаю. :-(
    Barack Obama on his girls: "I have men with guns surrounding them at all times, which I'm perfectly happy with..." (c) Why can he protect his family with guns and I can't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Акватрель
    На самом деле, я тебе скажу, это великий шаг..Я воспылала уважением к нашему незнакомцу, прям держитиминясемеро
    :evillaugh :cheer:
    тихи тихо, не задуши его (молодец человек)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Жирик
    Я должен с тобой согласиться. Я сижу и думаю, сделал бы я тоже самое? Честоно говоря не знаю. :-(
    я бы сделала, будь у меня возможность.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ватрушка
    я бы сделала, будь у меня возможность.
    Ты лучше меня как человек, я подумав должен признать что наверное бы на ето не пошел.
    Barack Obama on his girls: "I have men with guns surrounding them at all times, which I'm perfectly happy with..." (c) Why can he protect his family with guns and I can't?

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    Ребята, секундочку внимания.. Вот некоторые выдержки из плана. Кто-то, кто рубит фишку (Одинокий Остров?), можете взглянуть, чем мне это грозит? Смотрю в книгу, вижу фигу - с терминологией мало знакома.


    Plan feature Coverage amount
    Deductible Individual: None
    Family: None
    Out-of-pocket maximum: Individual: $1,500; Family: $4,500;
    $3,000 for employee plus one dependent.

    Office visits: Plan pays 100% after your $15 copay
    Hospital stay: Plan pays 100%
    Surgery in a hospital: Plan pays 100%
    Prescription drugs: You must see a pharmacy in the Blue Shield of
    California network.
    Generic: Plan pays 100% after $10 copay
    Brand-name preferred/Non-preferred: Plan pays
    100% after $15 brand-name/$30 non-preferred copay
    Lifetime maximum

    Далее:

    Q: Are there limits for pre-existing conditions?

    A: There are no exclusions or limitations for pre-existing conditions.

    Q: What is not covered under the plan?

    A: The plan does not cover:

    * Blood transfusions, including blood processing, the cost of
    blood, unreplaced blood and blood products, are covered. However,
    self-donated (autologous) blood transfusions are covered only for a
    surgery that the contracting Physician Group has authorized and
    scheduled.
    * Clinical trials such as; drugs or devices that are not approved
    by the FDA; services other than health care services, including but
    not limited to cost of travel or costs of other non-clinical expenses;
    services provided to satisfy data collection and analysis needs which
    are not used for clinical management; health care services that are
    specifically excluded from coverage and items and services provided
    free of charge by the research sponsors to Members in the trial.
    * Conception by Medical Procedures; Artificial insemination is
    covered when a female Member and/or her male partner is infertile.
    However, if only the male partner is a Member and the female partner
    (who is not a member) is infertile, artificial insemination will not
    be covered. The collection, storage nor purchase of sperm is not
    covered. Other services or supplies that are intended to impregnate a
    woman are not covered. Excluded procedures include, but are not
    limited to: In-vitro fertilization (IVF), gamete intrafallopian
    transfer (GIFT), zygote intrafallopian transfer (ZIFT) or any process
    that involves harvesting, transplanting or manipulating a human ovum.
    Also not covered are services or supplies (including injections and
    injectable medications) which prepare the Member to receive these
    services. Collection, storage, or purchase of sperm or ova.
    * Cosmetic surgery or services and supplies performed to alter or
    reshape normal structures of the body solely to improve the physical
    appearance of a Member are not covered. In addition, hair
    transplantation, hair analysis, hairpieces and wigs, chemical face
    peels, abrasive procedures of the skin, liposuction or epilation are
    not covered.
    * Custodial or domiciliary care such as services and supplies that
    are provided primarily to assist with the activities of daily living,
    regardless of where performed. Custodial Care is not covered even when
    the patient is under the care of a supervising or attending Physician
    and services are being ordered and prescribed to support and generally
    maintain the patient's condition or provide for the patient's comforts
    or ensure the manageability of the patient. Furthermore, Custodial
    Care is not covered even if ordered and prescribed services and
    supplies are being provided by a registered nurse, a licensed
    vocational nurse, a licensed practical nurse, a Physician Assistant or
    physical therapist.
    * Disposable supplies for home use
    * Exercise equipment.
    * Experimental or Investigational drugs, devices, procedures or
    other therapies are only covered when: Independent review deems them
    appropriate, or clinical trials for cancer patients are deemed
    appropriate
    * Eye surgery performed to correct refractive defects of the eye,
    such as near-sightedness (myopia), far-sightedness (hyperopia) or
    astigmatism.
    * Eyeglasses or contact Lenses. However, this exclusion does not
    apply to an implanted lens that replaces the organic eye lens.
    * Foot orthotics, (whether or not custom fit) that are not
    incorporated into cast, splint, brace or strapping of the foot, unless
    purchased by your Group as a specific benefit for foot orthotics.
    * Genetic testing and diagnostic procedures is limited to prenatal
    diagnosis of fetal genetic disorders in cases of high risk pregnancy
    as determined by Health Net and the Member's Physician. Other
    diagnostic procedures or testing for genetic disorders are not
    covered.
    * Hearing aids: This Plan does not cover any device inserted in or
    affixed to the outer ear to improve hearing.
    * Home birth; A birth which takes place at home will be covered
    only when the criteria for Emergency Care, as defined in your benefits
    section.
    * Hygienic equipment and supplies (to achieve cleanliness even
    when related to other covered medical services)
    * Jacuzzis and whirlpools.
    * Non-eligible institutions; This Plan only covers services or
    supplies provided by a legally operated Hospital, Medicare-approved
    Skilled Nursing Facility or other properly licensed facility specified
    that is primarily a place for the aged, a nursing home or a similar
    institution, regardless of how it is designated, is not an eligible
    institution. Services or supplies that are provided by such
    institutions are not covered.
    * Nonprescription (Over-the-Counter) drugs, equipment and
    supplies: Medical equipment and supplies (including insulin), that
    are available without a prescription, are covered when prescribed by a
    Physician for the management and treatment of diabetes. Any other
    nonprescription drug, medical equipment or supply that can be
    purchased without a Prescription Drug Order is not covered, even if a
    Physician writes a Prescription Drug Order for such drug, equipment or
    supply.
    * Orthotics, unless custom made to fit the Member's body.
    (Orthotics are supports or braces for weak or ineffective joints or
    muscles.)
    * Orthotics, whether or not custom fit, to treat dental conditions
    related to TMJ disorder.
    * Personal or comfort items.
    * Physician self-treatment rendered in a non-emergency. Physician
    self-treatment occurs when Physicians provide their own medical
    services, including prescribing their own medication, ordering their
    own laboratory test and self-referring for their own services. Claims
    for emergency self-treatment are subject to review by Health Net.
    * Private duty nursing in the home for registered bed patients in
    a Hospital or long-term care facility.
    * Rehabilitation therapy is limited to services after an acute
    episode of care for chronic conditions, an acute illness or injury or
    an acute exacerbation of such an illness or injury. Additionally, this
    Plan does not cover rehabilitation therapy services (physical, speech
    and occupational therapy) provided in connection with the treatment of
    the following conditions: Psychosocial speech delay (includes delayed
    language development). Mental retardation or dyslexia. Attention
    deficit disorders and associated behavior problems. Developmental
    articulation and language disorders. However, some of the above
    conditions shall be covered when Medically Necessary.
    * Services or supplies for which you are not legally required to
    pay or for which no charge is made.
    * Services or supplies provided before the Effective Date of
    coverage. Services or supplies provided after coverage through this
    Plan has ended are not covered, unless otherwise specified.
    * Stockings, corrective shoes and arch supports.
    * Surgical dressings other than primary dressings that are applied
    by your Physician Group or a Hospital to lesions of the skin or
    surgical incisions.
    * This Plan does not cover routine or ongoing treatment or
    consultation provided by the Member's parent, spouse, child or
    sibling. Members who receive routine or ongoing care from a member of
    their immediate family may be reassigned to another Physician.
    * Unlisted services
    * Experimental or Investigational in Nature except for Services
    for Members who have been accepted into an approved clinical trial for
    cancer as provided under Clinical Trial for Cancer;
    * or or incident to services rendered in the home or
    hospitalization or confinement in a health facility primarily for
    Custodial, Maintenance, or Domiciliary Care except as provided under
    Hospice Program Services; or rest;
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    Partial Hospitalization or Outpatient basis, except as specifically
    provided under Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services or the
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    А ко мне наоброт все пристают - "а у тебя есть документы? а то давай я на тебе женюсь!"

    Прям эпидемия какая-то.
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    * performed in a Hospital by Hospital officers, residents, interns
    and others in training;
    * for or incident to hospitalization or confinement in a pain
    management center to treat or cure chronic pain, except as may be
    provided through a Participating Hospice Agency and except as
    Medically Necessary;
    * or Cosmetic Surgery or any resulting complications, except that
    Medically Necessary Services to treat complications of Cosmetic
    Surgery (e.g., infections or hemorrhages) will be a Benefit, but only
    upon review and approval by a Blue Shield Physician consultant.
    Without limiting the foregoing, no benefits will be provided for the
    following surgeries or procedures:
    * -- Lower eyelid blepharoplasty; Spider veins; Procedures to
    smooth the skin (i.e., chemical face peels, laser resurfacing, and
    abrasive procedures); Hair removal by electrolysis or other means; and
    Reimplantation of breast implants originally provided for cosmetic
    augmentation;
    * incident to an organ transplant; except as provided under
    Transplant Benefits;
    * for convenience items such as telephones, TVs, guest trays, and
    personal hygiene items;
    * for transgender or gender dysphoria conditions, including but
    not limited to intersex surgery (trans-sexual operations), or any
    related services, or any resulting medical complications, except for
    treatment of medical complications that is Medically Necessary;
    * for any services related to the harvesting or stimulation of the
    human ovum, in vitro fertilization, Gamete Intrafallopian Transfer
    (G.I.F.T.) procedure, or any other form of assisted fertilization
    (including related medications, laboratory, and radiology services),
    artificial insemination, services or medications to treat low sperm
    count, or services incident to or resulting from procedures for a
    surrogate mother. However, if the surrogate mother is enrolled in a
    Blue Shield of California health plan, Covered Services for Pregnancy
    and Maternity Care for the surrogate mother will be covered under that
    health plan;
    * for or incident to the reversal of a vasectomy or tubal
    ligation, repeat vasectomy or tubal ligation;
    * for or incident to Speech Therapy, speech correction, or speech
    pathology or speech abnormalities that are not likely the result of a
    diagnosed, identifiable medical condition, injury or illness except as
    specifically provided under Home Health Care Services, PKU Related
    Formulas and Special Food Products and Home Infusion Therapy; Speech
    Therapy; and Hospice Program Services;
    * for routine foot care including callus, corn paring or excision
    and toenail trimming (except as may be provided through a
    Participating Hospice Agency); treatment (other than surgery) of
    chronic conditions of the foot, including but not limited to weak or
    fallen arches, flat or pronated foot, pain or cramp of the foot,
    bunions, muscle trauma due to exertion or any type of massage
    procedure on the foot; for special footwear (e.g., non-custom made or
    over-the-counter shoe inserts or arch supports) except as specifically
    provided under Orthoses and Diabetes Care;
    * for eye refractions (except as specifically provided under Eye
    Examination Benefit), surgery to correct refractive error (such as but
    not limited to radial keratotomy, refractive keratoplasty), lenses and
    frames for eye glasses, contact lenses (except as provided under
    Durable Medical Equipment, Prostheses, and Other Services);
    * for hearing aids;
    * for Dental Care or services incident to the treatment,
    prevention, or relief of pain or dysfunction of the Temporomandibular
    Joint and/or muscles of mastication, except as specifically provided
    under Medical Treatment of the Teeth, Gums, Jaw Joints or Jaw Bones;
    * for or incident to services and supplies for treatment of the
    teeth and gums (except for tumors) and associated periodontal
    structures, including but not limited to diagnostic, preventive,
    orthodontic and other services such as dental cleaning, tooth
    whitening, X-rays, topical fluoride treatment except when used with
    radiation therapy to the oral cavity, fillings, and root canal
    treatment; treatment of periodontal disease or periodontal surgery for
    inflammatory conditions; tooth extraction; dental implants; braces,
    crowns, dental orthoses and prostheses; except as specifically
    provided under Hospital Services and Medical Treatment of the Teeth,
    Gums, Jaw Joints or Jaw Bones;
    * for or incident to reading, vocational, educational,
    recreational, art, dance or music therapy; weight control or exercise
    programs;

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    * for learning disabilities, or behavioral problems;
    * for or incident to acupuncture and acupressure, except as
    specifically provided;
    * for spinal manipulation and adjustment, except as specifically
    provided under Professional (Physician) Services (other than for
    Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services);
    * for or incident to any injury or disease arising out of, or in
    the course of, any employment for salary, wage or profit if such
    injury or disease is covered by any workers' compensation law,
    occupational disease law or similar legislation. However, if Blue
    Shield provides payment for such services it will be entitled to
    establish a lien upon such other benefits up to the reasonable cash
    value of Benefits provided by BlueShield for the treatment of the
    injury or disease as reflected by the providers' usual billed charges;
    * in connection with private duty nursing, except as provided
    under Hospital Services, Home Health Care Services, PKU Related
    Formulas and Special Food Products and Home Infusion Therapy, and
    Hospice Program Services;
    * for testing for intelligence or learning disabilities;
    * for rehabilitation services except as specifically provided
    under Hospital Services, Home Health Care Services, PKU Related
    Formulas and Special Food Products and Home Infusion Therapy, and
    Outpatient Rehabilitation Sevices;
    * for prescribed drugs and medicines for Outpatient care except as
    provided through a Participating Hospice Agency when the Member is
    receiving Hospice Services and except as may be provided under Home
    Health Care Services, PKU Related Formulas and Special Food Products
    and Home Infusion Therapy;
    * for contraceptives and contraceptive devices, except as
    specifically included in the Family Planning and Infertility Services
    Benefit; oral contraceptives and diaphragms are excluded; no benefits
    are provided for contraceptive implants;
    * for transportation services other than provided under Ambulance Services;
    * for unauthorized non-Emergency Services;
    * not provided by, prescribed, referred, or authorized by a
    Personal Physician or the Blue Shield HMO except for Access+
    Specialist visits, OB/GYN Services provided by an obstetrician/
    gynecologist or family practice Physician within the same Medical
    Group/IPA as the Personal Physician, Emergency Services or Urgent
    Services as provided under Emergency Services and Urgent Services,
    when specific authorization has been obtained in writing for such
    Services from the Plan, for Mental Health and substance abuse Services
    which must be arranged through the MHSA or for Hospice Services
    received by a Participating Hospice Agency;
    * performed by a Close Relative or by a person who ordinarily
    resides in the Subscriber's or Dependent's home;
    * for orthopedic shoes, except as provided under Diabetes Care,
    home testing devices, environmental control equipment, generators,
    exercise equipment, self help/educational devices, or for any type of
    communicator, voice enhancer, voice prosthesis, electronic voice
    producing machine, or any other language assistance devices, except as
    provided under Durable Medical Equipment, Prostheses, and Other
    Services, vitamins, and comfort items;
    * for physical exams required for licensure, employment, or
    insurance unless the examination corresponds to the schedule of
    routine physical examinations provided under Preventive Health
    Services, or for immunizations and vaccinations by any mode of
    administration (oral, injection or otherwise) solely, or for
    immunizations for the purpose of travel;
    * for penile implant devices and surgery, and any related services
    except for any resulting complications and Medically Necessary
    Services as provided under Reconstructive Surgery;
    * for home testing devices and monitoring equipment except for use
    of the peak flow monitor for self-management of asthma, the glucose
    monitor for self-management of diabetes and the apnea monitor for
    management of newborn apnea when authorized as Durable Medical
    Equipment;
    * for or incident to sexual dysfunctions and sexual inadequacies,
    except as provided for treatment of organically based conditions;
    * for non-prescription (over-the-counter) medical equipment or
    supplies that can be purchased without a licensed provider's
    prescription order, even if a licensed provider writes a prescription
    order for a non-prescription item, except as specifically provided
    under Home Health Care Services, PKU Related Formulas and Special Food
    Products and Home Infusion Therapy, Hospice Program Services, Durable
    Medical Equipment, Prostheses, and Other Services, and Diabetes Care;
    * for Reconstructive Surgery and procedures: 1) where there is
    another more appropriate surgical procedure that is approved by a Blue
    Shield Physician consultant, or 2) when the surgery or procedure
    offers only a minimal improvement in function or in the appearance of
    the enrollees, e.g., spider veins, or 3) as limited under
    Reconstructive Surgery;
    * for drugs and medicines which cannot be lawfully marketed
    without approval of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (the FDA);
    however, drugs and medicines which have received FDA approval for
    marketing for one or more uses will not be denied on the basis that
    they are being prescribed for an off-label use if the conditions set
    forth in California Health and Safety Code, Section 1367.21 have been
    met;
    * for prescription or non-prescription food and nutritional
    supplements, except as provided for PKU related formulas as described
    under Home Health Care Services, PKU Related Formulas and Special Food
    Products and Home Infusion Therapy;
    * for genetic testing except as described under Other Outpatient
    Services, and Pregnancy and Maternity Care;
    * not specifically listed as a benefit.

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