Benjamin Franklin

[fan_ta]

я просто квоту нашла. я не уверена это может какойта обман-развод....
франклин был антисемит да? но это скрывают?

[Maine_Coon]

я просто квоту нашла. я не уверена это может какойта обман-развод....
франклин был антисемит да? но это скрывают?

Брехня.

http://is2day.co.il/2011/04/yurijokunevcivilizaciya/

[Malushin]

ну а даже если бы и был. то что? Ату его??

[fan_ta]

"I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves."

– Benjamin Franklin, Philadelphia Constitutional Convention of 1787


а это правда? он сказал?

[Malushin]

Ну осталось его растолкать и спросить.

[Jack53]

а это правда? он сказал?

Не бери в голову, тогда все так говорили. Ну, почти все. Да и сейчас говорят, даже здесь, на форуме. Не стоит паниковать, достаточно просто знать об этом.

[Alex5448]

а это правда? он сказал?

Фальшивка.
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/franklin_prophecy/franklin_documenting_fraud.asp

The fraudulent nature of the Prophecy -- and the fact that anti-Semitism was foreign to Franklin’s behavior — has been substantially documented by eminent historians. The late Charles A. Beard reported, "I cannot find a single original source that gives the slightest justification for believing that the Prophecy is anything more than a barefaced forgery. Not a word have I discovered in Franklin’s letters and papers expressing any such sentiments against the Jews as are ascribed to him by the Nazis — American and German. His well-known liberality in matters of religious opinion would, in fact, have precluded the kind of utterances put in his mouth by this palpable forgery . . . In his writings on immigration, Franklin made no mention of discrimination against Jews."

[fan_ta]

чё мне в голову брать? я протев всех религий. в штатах не говорят. в европе - анти-религиозный-семитизм. не против евреев а против религиозных евреев

[fan_ta]

Фальшивка.
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/franklin_prophecy/franklin_documenting_fraud.asp

The fraudulent nature of the Prophecy -- and the fact that anti-Semitism was foreign to Franklin’s behavior — has been substantially documented by eminent historians. The late Charles A. Beard reported, "I cannot find a single original source that gives the slightest justification for believing that the Prophecy is anything more than a barefaced forgery. Not a word have I discovered in Franklin’s letters and papers expressing any such sentiments against the Jews as are ascribed to him by the Nazis — American and German. His well-known liberality in matters of religious opinion would, in fact, have precluded the kind of utterances put in his mouth by this palpable forgery . . . In his writings on immigration, Franklin made no mention of discrimination against Jews."


у тебя нЕ академический ресурс а еврейский. не верю тоже. сорри. найди независимый

[Alex5448]

у тебя нЕ академический ресурс а еврейский. не верю тоже. сорри. найди независимый

Я у тебя работаю?:rofl: Тебе надо, ты и находи.

[fan_ta]

ты прав. не работаешь.


но не прав когда адназначна заявил "фальшивка"
я не знаю
ты не знаешь
лайбрери конгресса знает

[Alex5448]

ты прав. не работаешь.


но не прав когда адназначна заявил "фальшивка"
я не знаю
ты не знаешь
лайбрери конгресса знает

Ну ок, я сегодня добрый:)
http://www.fi.edu/franklin/birthday/faq.html#36

Regarding: "excerpts from the journal of Charles Pickney of South Carolina of the proceedings of Constitutional Convention of 1789 regarding the statement of Benjamin Franklin at the convention concerning Jewish immigration." Supposedly housed at The Franklin Institute...

There is a small publication titled "Benjamin Franklin Vindicated," published by The International Franklin Society, that contains statements from a variety of sources condemning the speech as a hoax. One of the statements is by Henry Butler Allen, Director of The Franklin Institute in the 1930s.