а вот кто знает..

[noincomingcalls]

какой мне лучше фотоапарат брать...
Canon EOS 20D
или
Canon EOS 350D

разница где то в пятихатку

[AjP]

хах, дискурсии на енту тему огромные, очень много cons i pros

[Монашка]

хах, дискурсии на енту тему огромные, очень много цонс и просрасскажи о своих "за" и "против"

[AjP]

Монаш, очень много говорить но всетаки все зависит от самого юсера. в фотках особо раздницы нет, оба фотика по качеству фоток практически идентични, но я лично предпочитаю 20D,
better build,
more functions,
feels' like camera not a toy

350D очень маленкий для мойх захапущих ручёнок :)

а так все зависит от пользователя, если не планировать покупать большие линзы а так для фоткать изредка то и 350D хорошо, но если пару-троичка сотен роли не играют то опятьже 20D

(IMHO)
Things that are different where the EOS 20D is better



The EOS 20D has a rear QCD (Quick Control Dial) which can be used to set exposure compensation, flash compensation, shutter speed or aperture in manual mode and has several other functions. The same functions are available in the Digital Rebel XT, but require the pushing of buttons. The advantage of the QCD is you can do things faster and without taking your eye from the viewfinder.
The EOS 20D can shoot at 5 frames/second, the Digital Rebel XT can shoot at 3 frames/sec
The EOS 20D can shoot a burst of 23 high resolution JPEG frames before the buffer fills, The Digital Rebel XT can shoot 14 frames
The EOS 20D has 9 autofocus zones, the Digital Rebel XT has 7
The EOS 20D provides full cross-type performance with maximum apertures as small as f5.6, yet it achieves up to 3 times the standard focusing precision when used with EF lenses featuring maximum apertures larger than or equal to f/2.8. The autofocus system of the Digital Rebel XT is inherited from the film Rebel XT body and has normal precision f5.6 sensors.
The EOS 20D autofocus is specified to operate in 1 stop lower light than the Digital Rebel autofocus (-0.5 EV vs +0/5 EV)
The EOS 20D autofocus is faster than the autofocus on the Digital Rebel XT
The EOS 20D has a top shutter speed of 1/8000s, the Digital Rebel XT has a top shutter speed of 1/4000s
The EOS 20D has a flash x-sync speed of 1/250s, the Digital Rebel x-sync speed is 1/200s
The EOS 20D has a pentaprism with a 0.9x viewfinder magnification, the Digital Rebel XT has a pentamirror with 0.8x magnification.
The EOS 20D has a highest ISO setting of 3200, the Digital Rebel XT has a high ISO setting of 1600.
The EOS 20D is good for 1000 shots (no flash) on a single battery charge, the Digital Rebel XT is good for 600.
The EOS 20D has a PC terminal for use with an external flash or strobe, the Digital Rebel XT does not.
The EOS 20D maximum flash sync voltage is 250v (for both the hotshoe and PC terminal), the Digital Rebel XT maximum sync voltage is also 250v, not 6v as I had earlier reported. Canon have recently stated that the Digital Rebel XT does in fact share the 250v sync voltage with the 20D and other high end Canon EOS bodies. Sorry for any confusion on this point.
The EOS 20D has a high performance shutter designed for increased reliability (100,000 cycles), the Digital Rebel XT has the normal Canon shutter (about 50,000 cycles).
The shutter lag time of the EOS 20D is 65ms, the shutter lag time of the Digital Rebel XT is 100ms.
The high-speed mirror drive give the EOS 20D a shortened viewfinder blackout time (115ms) compared to the Digital Rebel XT (170ms)
The EOS 20D sensor (8.2MP, 22.5 x 15mm) is very slightly larger and has slightly more pixels than the Digital Rebel XT sensor (8.0MP, 22.2 x 14.8mm).
The EOS 20D has a multi-controller on the back of the camera can be pushed in eight directions, as well as down in the center, to simplify selection of the AF point, correction of white balance, trimming of images during direct printing, scrolling of magnified images etc. The Digital Rebel XT uses push buttons for the same functions.
The EOS 20D has top, front and rear covers made of a magnesium alloy for added strength and rigidity. The top, front and rear covers of the Rebel XT are plastic.
The EOS 20D has 18 custom functions, the Digital Rebel XT has 9
The EOS 20D ships with Adobe PhotoShop Elements 2, the Digital Rebel XT ships with ArcSoft PhotoStudio 5.5. Adobe have an upgrade offer from Elements to full Photoshop CS for $299. This offer applies to copies of Elements which were supplied bundled with Canon products. Since Photoshop retails for up to $599 ($649 list), this can be a significant saving.
Things that are different where the Digital Rebel XT is better


Price - a no-brainer. The Digital Rebel XT is around $500 cheaper!
The Digital Rebel can use the low cost ($25) RC-1 and RC-5 infrared remotes. The EOS 20D can't.
The Digital Rebel XT is lighter than the EOS 20D (17.1oz vs. 24.2oz)

[noincomingcalls]

this is what I'm getting:


Canon EOS 20D 8.2MP
Digital SLR Camera
18-55mm EF-S Lens
Compatible with all
EF/EF-S Lenses
Battery & Charger
1.8" LCD


Digital Camera Kit Includes:

Canon EOS 20D Digital SLR Camera
Accessories:
18-55mm EF-S lens
Lithium-Ion Rechargeable Battery pack
Battery Charger
Video Cable
Interface Cable
Neck Strap
Eye Cup
EOS Digital Solution Disk and Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0

[Moonlight Traveler]

Canon EOS 20D 8.2MP
Digital SLR Camera
18-55mm EF-S Lens


Good choice :) Which telephoto lens?
MT

[AjP]

if you can afford get 20D body only and get 28-135 IS USM, don't like 18-55 kit lenses at all IMHO

o yes don't forget get extra battery, it is good practice to have one fully charged battery all the time...

[Leon93]

какой мне лучше фотоапарат брать...
Цанон ЕОС 20Д
или
Цанон ЕОС з50Д

разница где то в пятихатку


Бери Минолту 7Д . будешь экономить на линзах. У нее стабилизация в бади.

[AjP]

Бери Минолту 7Д . будешь экономить на линзах. У нее стабилизация в бади.<бр> Лёня, она помоему интересовалас Kаноном а не минольтой... не в обиду, у меня была минолта, хорошая камера, но я так рад что наконец то продал и перешол на Kанон, Kанон мировой лидер и больше чем у Канон ни у кого нет такого количества линз... пусть дорогие, но лучше нет

[Moonlight Traveler]

if you can afford get 20D body only and get 28-135 IS USM, don't like 18-55 kit lenses at all IMHO

o yes don't forget get extra battery, it is good practice to have one fully charged battery all the time...
18-55 is an ok lens for the money. I replaced it with sigma 18-50 but it's $400 or so. Considering the 1.6 factor 28-135 is 45-216 - not very wide. Although I don't know the requirements. If I didn't want to bother with changing lenses 28-135 would be a good candidate (or 17-85IS). Otherwise I would go with 18-55 and 50-200 (or 70-300) and replace the kit lens later.
Yes, extra battery is a good idea. A few memory cards too :)
MT

[AjP]

agree 28-135 is not wide enough for small rooms but it is great low cost wlak around lense, of cuase 16-35 2.8, 24-70 2.8L and 70-200 2.8 L IS .... is the best combination, but for outside shooter, walk around, everyday use 28-135 has the best reviews, definately better then 18-55 IMHO

[noincomingcalls]

Good choice :) Which telephoto lens?
MT
I'm not there yet))